Do you think Alexander Povetkin's feints are going to cause huge problems / troubles for Joshua?

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You mother****ers are literally bending over backward trying to convince yourself that Povetkin is somehow this old decrepit shot to **** ripe for the picking old man, the Povetkin that fought Price, as diminished as he may have seemed, take a closer look, stop listening to the commentators, he was in full control, was feinting beautifully, his handspeed, jab, body shots, overhand right, feints, combinations and power all on point, and he wasn't gassed. Yeah fine he got caught.... with one of the hardest shots I've ever seen David Price land on anyone he's ever faced, a left hook that would have decapitated and KO'd cold most fighters that got hit with it. It was horrifically violent, it was head spinning and neck jarring. Povetkin's chin was almost on his shoulder... and he didn't even leave his feet. Think about that.
     
  2. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Did I read that the bodybuilder Joshua has no concussive knockout power? Am I living in a parallel universe, where a weightlifter can't generate any power, through the obstruction of his big stiff artificial muscles?
     
  3. nickpoppunk

    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    looks how tired povetkin looks after the 2nd round. damn worse than price.
     
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  4. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    Just read Frank's column and he said he'd be shocked if there was an upset tonight. He said he doesn't want to tell sparring stories but Dubois done "very, very well" against Povetkin.

    You can accuse Frank of having an agenda, but from listening to Daniel's interview about the spar and also Frank talking about it on a couple occasions, I think he's being genuine. He wants to respect the industries unwritten rule not to discuss sparring so he's not going overboard, but more of a 'wink wink' with how good Daniel did.

    In an ideal world, this old Povetkin would be firing on all cylinders in sparring.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    How about its just that Dubois wants to blow smoke up his own ass? Self interest never plays into people's motivations does it?

    Dubois probably did better than he thought he would and is overstating his own success.
     
  6. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    I hear that all the time about certain sparring stories and then they ultimately turn out to be true.

    Just going by body language and reading through the lines, I think they are being truthful in this one. Povetkin is looking like an old man in training.

    I understand the cynicism though
     
  7. Infern0121

    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Povetkin looked like he'd been eating some leather in training.

    And tbh frank probably would prefer to say if he genuinley thought povetkin looked good in sparring to poo poo AJ
     
  8. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Povetkin needs to get into the pocket for his feints to work. AJ only has to take a step back and he has fast lineal footspeed for his size.

    Winning formula without "boxing finesse" is simple as:

    1. Step back.
    2. Jab.
    3. Grab.
    4. Lean.
    5. Breakup.
    6. Repeat.
     
  9. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    Didn't Dubois also kick Joshua's ass in sparring? These two homos clearly got nothing on the devastating Triple D.
     
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  10. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Same applies to AJ's jab. His jab isn't much, if at all 'snappier' than David Price's. In fact, Joshua's jab is not even close to his best attribute. Joshua's best punch is his uppercut. And Joshua performs best at mid-range, rather than at long range with the jab.

    And Price practically averaged just ONE clean, head snapping jab each round. That literally means ABSOLUTELY nothing! Those jabs did very little to Povetkin either.

    Go and see Joshua's fight against Parker. Joshua was at most, averaging 2 or 3 clean, head snapping jabs per round on Joseph Parker, even when Parker was coming forward and forcing Joshua back. Joseph Parker barely even had a mark in his light skinned face. So much for Joshua's 'SNAPPY' jab, which was practically nonexistent against Parker.

    Compare that to prime Wladimir Klitschko against prime David Haye. The same David Haye who is SIGNIFICANTLY faster, more powerful, more athletic and more dangerous than Joseph Parker that Joshua fought. Wladimir Klitschko with his jab alone, inflicted far greater damage on the darker skinned Haye's face, than Joshua inflicted on the lighter skinned Parker's face.

    Joshua is not having any more success with his jab against Povetkin, than he did against Parker. The difference is, Povetkin is far more skilled than Parker overall offensively, which Joshua has to also worry about, which he didn't have to against Parker.
     
  11. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Feints can also work when a shorter boxer is out of range. I'll give you an example:

    If I'm the shorter boxer and you're the taller boxer. I can fake a step in, and then bait you into going for a clinch with both your arms, or bait you into throwing a jab to keep me at bay. As soon as I bait that jab from you with my step in feint, I could quickly slip your jab / clinch attempt and then come with an overhand right to your face.

    Baiting an opponent into throwing jabs / clinches can work for a shorter fighter.

    Although if Joshua goes full GRAB mode, then I'm not sure what Povetkin is going to do or would be able to do.

    And I do agree that Povetkin is going to have a difficult time with Joshua's step back, which is pretty fast as you correctly stated.
     
  12. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who did Anthony Joshua KO unconscious / cold / clean, outside of an injured Dillian Whyte who had an injured knee?
     
  13. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I Can easily see Povetkin winning this either via stoppage or decision (Although a fair decision would be a tough hill to climb given that it is in the UK)


    Povetkin is too skilled and experienced for Joshua. The skill, experience, feinting, and angle punching will over ride Joshua‘s size and reach advantage

    Povetkin is coming in at a very good weight and knows this is finally his big chance-Maybe his last
     
  14. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Joshua will have his jab outsteched in povetkins face after throwing it while standing on his backfoot. Just like Klitschko. That is how the first rounds is going to look like. Fencing style. Followed up by quick grabs with high guard.

    Povetkin needs to get past multiple shields of defence to hurt Joshua.

    Can see him landing something here and there due to his phenomenal boxing skills but its going to be to little and to far betwen.
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2018
  15. Hi-Tek-Lomo

    Hi-Tek-Lomo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Three rounds, huh? lol
     
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