Do You Think Club Fighters & Journeymen Are Bums

Lotta greats start as clubbies, right?

 

Hell no. No fighter who's in there giving an honest effort is a "bum."

Now, I might feel a bit different about a professional "tomato can" who shows up just to fall down and collect a paycheck.

 

No, club fighters and journeymen are not bums. Not by a longshot...

 

No, and this is why I get agitated when someone refers to a championship level fighter as a bum as well. Even journeymen aren't bums, they have usually paid their dues, become gatekeepers or measuring sticks.

 

The term "bum" is relative, because the fights we all watch pretty much all take place at the highest level of the sport. Obviously, someone with ten losses that has no chance against a great fighter isn't a bum. They are probably better than 90-95% of all people who box. Everybody knows this, so I don't think it's necessary for anyone to get worked up when people call fighters bums.

 

Most journeymen and club fighters would whoop 90% of the guys there size so no they are far from bums.

 

Mccall was considered a club fighter for awhile until he knocked out Lewis in 94, since then his career has been up and down and I would love to see him get a title opertunity in the future.

 

The fact that they are 90-95 % better than most boxers is WHY I get annoyed at the loose usage of the term. It shouldn't be relative. These fighters deserve more respect than that IMO.

 

Even Floyd may become a bum when Hatton break his rib.

 

Heart and soul of boxing!

 

No.

People like to call fighters who aren't among the best dozen or so (often they are) in their weight class IN THE WORLD "bums".

Would you call the 8th best cornerback in the NFL a "bum"? No? But the 8th best boxer in the world (or in the USA) in a particular weight class with frequently be called a "bum". Go figure.

 

if anyone turns up for a fight just for a payday and knows they dont even have a chance of winning then that is what i class as a bum

 

Not anymore. They're groomed in the amateurs and then the olympics and then they turn pro under a promotional company that feeds them the clubbies and the journeymen. You won't find an Amir Khan or an Andre Ward in any clubs. Those days are over.

I respect anybody that steps into the ring regardless of their talent level or circumstances. We need the journeymen and the clubfighters and every now and then one of them will pull off an upset which gives them a brief moment in the sun and us another underdog story to talk about.

 

no...but there are a some that do it because there's nothing else to do for them