Do You Think Club Fighters & Journeymen Are Bums

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Butch Coolidge, Sep 27, 2007.


  1. SteveO

    SteveO MSW Full Member

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    To me, a bum is a guy whose record is full of first round TKO's and not because he has a bad chin, but he takes a knee at the slightest bit of glove contact.

    Even a guy with a losing record who puts in an honest effort has my respect, especially if he's the heavy underdog.
     
  2. AllyT

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  3. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    whats funny is, you see many people with bad records who have actual talent, but were managed poorly and take fights on short notice. One example is Zack Page. This guy is in great shape, has good boxing skills, his record is like 15-17, but hes always called on the last second and he has to fight at heavyweight a lot even though hes a cruiser. He beat Del Valle and lost a split decision to Guinn at heavy.
     
  4. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Somebody who is labeled a "club fighter" or "journeyman" usually has a losing record or quite a few loses, which means they are out there being hit. I don't define that as being a bum. Most of those guys with less talent typically have a lot of heart. If you give a 110% at doing anything, how could you be degraded for it.
     
  5. Bigcat

    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You would not have Champions withouthaving second tier or even third tier fighters to develope and hone thier skills on while becoming established..

    Johnny Nelson lost 5 out of his first 11 pro fights..

    Then went on to dominate the British , commonwealth , European then World Cruiserweight scene..

    Be careful who you distinguish as a bum, they can often come and have an indian summer and make your prediction look so dumb..

    Jameel only won 2 out of his first 5 , he drew with Albert Williams and Ron Guerrero , lost to Gary Bell, and now he is looking down the barrel of his 4th title shot..

    Buster Douglas had a whole bunch of horrendous outings including losses to Mike White and Jessie Ferguson before becoming the first man to stop (beat ) Tyson and become Undisputed heavyweight champ..