Do you think David Haye will succeed at the heavyweight division?

NOPE................HES NOT EVANDER HOLYFIELD.:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke

 

I am not a David Haye hater by no means, but I do think he is quite overrated. He is a dangerous puncher and all, but I have doubts how his chin will hold up against a world class heavyweight. He was stopped by an old Carl Thompson. He is no Evander Holyfield by no means, but luckily for Haye the strength of the heavyweight division is much weaker than when Holyfield made the jump back in the late 1980's

 

Actually I see some things he has in common with RJJ.


Great Athletically...

Chinny...

Fights "safe opponents"...and is currently looking for the safest available....

Uses "money" as an excuse as to why he will not fight the tougher opponents...

...Oh wait, they aren't that much alike...RJJ actually fought James Toney.

 

I say no.

Relies on his power to get the opponent before they get him, he's also used to being "the big guy" in the ring, with his height at cruiser.

At Heavy, he's average sized, he loses that advantage, I think he gets cracked the first time he steps in with a super heavyweight.

 

I think he can beat Tye Fields.

 

Agreed, He can no longer dominate fight with his size no longer, unless he's fighting Bryd or Brock, even Povetkin would probably over power his ass. Haye might be able to throw a Heavyweight punch, but I really doubt he can take one, the guy got floored and knocked out by less than powerful Cruiserweights, that doesnt bode too well for him when he decides to fight a powerful Heavyweight.

 

He will spark Wlad and his sister Vitalia out.

 

Are you serious?

The guy has become an undisputed cruiserweight champion and the hottest thing in the heavyweight division in under 20 fights, and you think he fights safe opponents?

Dude, David Haye fought and beat the undisputed champion in his division, Jean-Marc Mormeck! How does that count as a safe opponent? By definition, the champion is the most dangerous fighter in the division, and therefore the most UN-safe option available to him!

Also, this is a kid who fought Carl Thompson, an experienced world-class veteran who's been in more wars than just about any other fighter in britain, in his 10th fight! Even though he lost, it was sheer balls to take the fight.

Arthur Williams? 7th fight. I say no more.

I got news for you, over-protected cherry-picking duckers dont lose in their first 10 fights, coz they dont fight anyone who comes to win.

The fights against Thomas Bonin, Arthur Williams, Jean-Marc Mormeck, Alexander Gurov and Enzo Maccarinelli were all thought to be very risky fights for Haye before he obliterated them, and many people (on here too may I add) picked Haye to lose for them. No matter how you retrospectively may change your views to save face, a lot of respected commentators picked Haye to lose in those fights.

This guy has the biggest pair of bollocks in boxing. He's not bothered if he wins or if he loses. He just wants to fight, anyone at anytime. If he loses at heavyweight? No worries, he'll just come right back.

You surely dont have a ****ing clue about Haye or his career. Like a lot of American posters your knowledge of boxing (and the world in general) goes no further than your own nation's borders. You've decided to judge this guy on the fact he's not fought anyone at heavyweight yet, and come to the conclusion that he's a ducker and an avoider. Unfortunately for you, you couldn't have picked a worse fighter to jump to that conclusion with. Even a brief objective look at his career would have been enough for you to know better, but even this seems beyond you! I hope you were being ironic or sarcastic, but I have this terrible fear you weren't.

Consider your ignorance exposed. I apologise for the length of this post, I know how reading long things with polysyllabic words hurts your poor malnourished brain.

 

To an extent.

 

Are you serious??:rofl Yeah Bonin was really tearing up the heavyweight top 100.

 

I'm talking about what this guy is doing now...all you have exposed is your own inability to grasp the plain and simple, in favor of a detailed history, which does everything but shed light on the current situation.

Haye is looking for the easiest HW to face with a halfway recognizable name. If you don't know that, you don't know boxing beyond your own borders.

Rahman is considered shot in the U.S....I suppose it is as I feared several months ago, Haye will try to capitalize on Rahman's ancient defeat of Lewis by bringing him to England...and passing off the bout as legitimate, in you he has already found a naive member of the public to pitch it to.

Brits who know boxing want to see James Toney.

 

People mentioning Holyfield as a comparison are missing a point.

If David Haye had been around in the same era as Holyfield then there would have been no question of him ever fighting at CW.

He would have always been a heavyweight and, as he would have been fighting at the same kind of weight as Tyson, Berbick, Holmes, etc I don't think it would have crossed anyone's mind to call him a 'small' heavyweight.