Do you think Foreman would have got Chuvalo out of there?Any probs with the stoppage?

not sure. foreman's output was slowing down and he was startin to look off balance and less accurate. so he might have punched himself out within a few more seconds and fallen in to a clinch.
its hard to tell if chuvalo was still hurt at the end there or not . or if he was about to hit back

But before that chuvalo took many hard and direct shots without hitting back. I see why his manager was calling for it to be stopped.

 

Chuvalo was insanely tough, but Foreman was a special type of puncher and had him cornered and had landed some horrific looking blows.

Fairly tame by most standards of the day, but more than fair IMO.

 

I think it would have been dangerous to his health to continue, and therefore the question of "would he've been able to win some of the time" becomes a moot one. It doesn't matter, the referee did a great job.

Hell, I would even argue that it is a better stoppage because of the beard Chuvalo has. To take a prolonged battering from Foreman just to tire him out is mental. Even so if you have the reflexes and defensive capability of Ali, but moreso when you have the reflexes and defensive capability of George Chuvalo.

 

Now that I think about it, the fight does seem to have been stopped a little too quick. Chuvalo was still jabbing back, and as already mentioned by someone else here, there's the question of how much longer Foreman could have continued punching.

 

Absolutely Chuvalo was going to hit the canvas, and it would have been brutal because Chuvalo was so tough he would have taken it all before he finally went down out cold. He was getting badly hammered and things were looking worse and worse for him, getting hit more and more and getting bulled to the corner and ropes and pummeled by brutal shots. Chuvalo was very strong and tough, but he was up against an all time great puncher and force that his style simply did not have the answer to. Good stoppage, even if a reasonable argument could be made that it was a hair early.

 

I thought the stoppage was well timed Chuvalo had just taken a monstrous shot the fact that he is coherent and entertaining today is a testament to good refereeing imo.

 

You know how George Chuvalo does a lot of nice interviews, throughout his life, up till now, speaking clearly and giving us the benefit of all of his experience and insight and speaking with fans? Let's thank that ref for that. If he made it out of that barrage, who knows? I know, he might have let George punch himself out and done some incredible thing with it. But, **** it. The likeliest thing coming down the pike was going to be terrible brain damage on the off chance he was going to stay upright and punching. It wasn't an ideal stoppage, I admit, but it's probably just as well. :conf

 

I actually made a thread about this a little while ago.
From watching it yet again Chuvalo just does not look hurt at all, he had his handsup and still firing back.
He also did a lot of hard body work in previous rounds and we know now Foreman had rather suspect stamina.

I would have liked to see it continued.

 

True, but this was not the rope a dope where Ali blocked or eluded or rode most of the punches and was holding and pulling the neck and also firing back fast punches that landed solidly. Chuvalo's head was still and getting jolted over and over again by solidly landed blows, and he was not landing anything in return. You keep taking that type of punishment and you simply aren't going to be able to come back from it. Chuvalo's own manager was calling for it to be stopped. Chuvalo simply was not slick enough or fast enough to do anything with George. The theory that George would tire out beating the living crap out of him is a risky and dangerous one for a fighter to engage in or for a referee to allow.

 

When a fighter is clear, has his handsup, fires back, not hurt at all ... even if hes taking solid blows i do not think you should stop it.

If hes getting hurt/out on his feet then yes, but he seemed absolutely fine.
That said its not a bad stoppage, last thing i want to see is someone die in the ring.
But if it was up to me i would have let it continue in this case.

 

Not hurt at all? Oh I strongly disagree there. Chuvalo was definitely hurt. Not only was Foreman out punching him, he was actually outboxing him too. And you could see that things were getting gradually worse for Chuvalo. Foreman was boxing calmly and nicely, pacing himself well and methodically picking him apart, landing more and more, and we are talking heavy head jolting shots that had Chvualo's eye closing and mouth bleeding, and you noticed him stagger into the ropes in the 3rd round to start the barrage. Then when Foreman had almost nonstop pelted him with a barrage of head and body blows, Chuvalo gets worked back to the ropes and is barely responding the punches. True in desperation he threw a couple shots back, but he was just taking and taking and he appeared to be wilting. And those were some really big blows he was absorbing. I agree that he could have continued at that point, and wasn't completely out, but he was on his way to being there. Plus Foreman's confidence was through the roof at that point.

 

Chuvalo was on his way out. There is no doubt Chuvalo was a tough minded son of a gun, but I think his durability is a tad over rated. Chavalo did not last long vs. Frazier either.

 

From taking a punch well standpoint or an injury standpoint? Frazier busted his orbital bone or something. Basically made Chuvalo quit.