Do you think Frazier could have beat Vitali or Wladmir?

Frazier UD or possibly TKO. What Holmes' Jab said. Don't really feel like giving an analysis right now.

 

Maybe. Obviously it's a style fight. If Frazier can get inside and stay there he'd likely win, if Vitali uses his size, weight and reach he could cause Frazier problems. I'm not comparting Vitali to Foreman, that would be nuts, but it does show that Frazier is beatable.

I think any fighter it beatable, even Ali, it comes down to styles.

 

That's certainly a possible outcome.

 

Frazier's relentless attack would simply wear both of them out, they I can see them going the distance even with Wlad's chin. I just can't see either of the boys knocking Frazier out and with Frazier's stamina he wins.

 

I think quite highly of Vitali, have done for a long time. It would be very hard for Frazier to beat him, though i think his pressure could do it, and Frazier is also faster by my reckononing, may do the scoriing. But i do think Vitali could beat him also, when you think that Foreman did it by thrashing him it seems unlikely that Vitali would emulate that performance stylistically, but when you think that Foreman did it by putting him on the back foot then Vitali has a case imo. Vitali is tough as nails and hits hard in his own right, awkward also, though i think Frazier's bobbing style in his prime would enable him to dodge a lot of shots, i think when Vitali gets up close, them awkward shots Vitali has in his arsenal can find their target. All in all, i think Frazier has a difficult night, no shame in that, i think they both have a difficult night, either man has a case, i would maybe lean towards Frazier as of his more proven status (dont wanna upset any1 here!!!, after all, we're in the CLASSIC)

Now Wlad, i think, and have always wanted the chance to express an opinion on this fight. Frazier will, brutalise him, brutalise him, did any1 not get that? BRUTAL KO.

 

Yeah, I think Wlad is a better fighter than Vitali, but Vitali give Frazier a harder fight of the two. Both bro's get stopped however, Wlad earlier.

 

I see Wlad being the harder matchup due to his superior firepower compared to Vitali. Wlad has a chance to finish him early, but I'd go with Smokin Joe in 6.

Vitali isn't a big puncher, and I'd expect him to be broken down and finished off late.

 

I see Wlad being the harder matchup due to his superior firepower compared to Vitali. Wlad has a chance to finish him early, but I'd go with Smokin Joe in 6.

Vitali isn't a big puncher, and I'd expect him to be broken down and finished off late.

 

I think Vitali stops Frazier. Frazier was one dimensional, small, and did not take the best punch. Sorry, films do not lie. Vitlai was not prone to being hit with hooks, and Frazier would have to reach way up there to land his money punch.

Frazier vs Wlad is close to pick ‘em. I do not think either could take each other’s best punches early. I lean a bit toward Frazier just because I think his pressure-oriented style would give him the edge to land the bomb first. Of course, with Wlad's developed clinching skills, he could smother Frazier as he did to Peter.

Frazier kind of struggled vs bigger boxers types, and never beat anyone who hit as hard as either Klitschko.

 

Despite the great size advantage in Vitali's favour, it does not count for as much as some think.

If you're not equipped to get a man off you then your game is lacking. Vitali does not have the necessary assertive flair to dart out of Frazier's honey spot up close. Frazier has the ability to bob up to the giant Ukrainian and make his game suffer with short pops that he can deliver faster than Vitali can retreat.

A Unanimous Decision or late stoppage for Smokin' Joe.

 

He ko's Wlad ...

Vitali is a much tougher fight because of his solid chin but in a fifteen round bout I'd say Joe tires him out and pounds out a decision.

 

I dunno. You say Vitali isn't a big puncher but (i think) he still has the highest KO% of any heavyweight champion in history. He doesn't quite have a right hand like Shavers but the big guy grinds you down and gets you out of there. Frazier can be stopped and I know also that Vitali doesn't punch quite as hard as Foreman but he doesn't need to. Frazier will have a hard time landing those left hooks and Vitali will just hit him as he comes in. I don't think Frazier can take what Vitali dishes out for 12-15 rounds. It's not just his power though, it's the sheer size of the man too, plus his awkwardness. I'm not saying Frazier can't win but I would heavily back Vitali. I know a lot of people won't like that 'cos Smokin' Joe is a legend but it's just my honest opinion.

The determinant of this fight IMO is durability. Wlad is noticeably inferior to his brother in this regard so for me it's the easier fight for Joe, by some margin. The bottom line is that I feel certain Vitali can take whatever Frazier throws at him. I cannot say the same for Wlad.

 

This is a no brainer Smoking Joe Frazier , Would destroy both of them, size would not matter with a prime frazier he was a ferocious fighter late 60s early 70s !! Frazier TKO 7

 

I agree with that. Vitali range, power, chin and style could pose a serious problem for the shorter Frazier. Wlad could shake Frazier up but couldn't handle the pressure. Frazier by KO.