Do you think it's better for Cormier to keep the ifght on the feet?

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  1. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    Well, just my opinion, Cormier seems to have a much better striking than Mir.

    I understand that he's an outstanding wrestler, and he might be able to take Mir down at will. However, Mir is a can who can just grab anything make make you tap.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    Frank Mir is the best heavyweight submission artist of all time as evidenced by his kimura of Nogeuira. Daniel Cormier absolutely wants to keep this fight standing at all times - much like Daniel's fight with Jeff Monson.
     
  3. Rob_Floyd

    Rob_Floyd Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No doubt. No point playing around with Mir's ground game unless 100% necessary.
     
  4. 1millionwoolong

    1millionwoolong Member Full Member

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    he might go for a takedown with 10 seconds left in the round just to score greg jackson style
     
  5. EL BULLY

    EL BULLY Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's better for any fighter facing Mir to keep it on the feet. Mir has a horrible chin, horrible striking and horrible cardio but he has world class JJ. No brainer.
     
  6. Matt Ldn

    Matt Ldn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even if you can beat a guy on the ground and I don't doubt cormier can why give an opponent a chance he wouldn't otherwise have.
     
  7. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    I think Cormier will be confident 100% wherever he takes it.
     
  8. mckay_89

    mckay_89 Haw you! Full Member

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    It depends really. I think everyone knows that if he keeps it on the feet he's going to blast Mir eventually, however if he really wants to prove a point he might do it, just to show he's better in every way. It's dangerous though, as the one thing you can't fault Mir on is his BJJ.
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I think Cormier can be confident in his wrestling and I suspect he is a better pure wrestler/grappler (minus subs) than Frank. Mir is not at his optimum weight, isn't the fittest or the most active BUT if you dare leave a limb in a precarious position then he will not hesitate to go home with it. Cormier seems fast and powerful on his feet, Franks got good striking but again he isn't at his best weight so he isn't at his most agile, fittest, fastest. Most importantly Franks brain tends to freeze as soon as he is in a sticky situation.
     
  10. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Cause he's the black Fedor not the black Carlos Condit
     
  11. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    My thoughts are where ever this fight goes and what ever happens Mir loses.

    Ill explain - on the feet Cormier is the better striker, on the ground Cormier is the better overall grappler, if for some unknown reason Cormier has Mir on top of him it will be because Mir has dropped him (Kongo) and he will literally have to be seeing stars for Mir not be reversed and thrown to his back in a split second.

    Mir for an accomplished back belt has a week guard, Brock Lesnar underlined that!

    Cormier can knock him out, he can jab him to a decision, or he can pound him out, unlikely Cormier will tap him but this is MMA you never know.

    Mir has little to no chance of finishing Cormier IMHO
     
  12. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Are you referring to Mir being over weight at 260+ ? Because I would have to agree with you

    Mir naturally is 235-240 thats his optimum weight IMO
     
  13. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    Franklin has the power to knock him out. Mir is a big puncher unlike anyone that Cormier has ever fought before, Monsoon and Barnett have never Ko'd anyone. Arlovski's chin withstand trading punches with bigfoot and go the distance. Oveereem is the only guy with a worse chin than Arlovski.

    Barnett was landing some good clean power shots but has little punching power. What if that was Mir landing
     
  14. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Yes. He is clearly a big bloke but despite all his achievements, I don't think we ever saw the best Frank Mir, at least on a consistent basis from round to round or fight to fight. I'm sure there are a number of reasons i.e. lack of motivation, motorcycle accident, big era (Brock, Carwin) etc but Frank at 235 with a focus on striking and grappling from the start would have been interesting.
     
  15. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol: FFS :patsch