do you think jmm would have beaten dlh the way pacman did???

Not one of the best but probably the best counter puncher out there. But his style of play is different to pacs and how it fits to de la hoya.

I dont think marquez could stand toe to toe with de la hoya. If pacquiao was able to knock him out 3 times in the first round, what could de la hoya possibly do to him. Lets face it, he cant counter all of it.

 

I think JMM would've won by UD against that depleted version of DLH.

But since styles do make fights......how would Katsidis do with the DLH that fought Pac?

 

You just break down on your own. Like I said, go watch some Marquez fights.

 

That's an interesting one!

The obvious answer is that Katsidis would have probably stopped him earlier as he probably hits harder than Pac. However, for me the thing that was most impressive was Pac's ability to hit with combos whilst moving. Katsidis, like Hatton, generally tends to plant his feet before throwing the bombs which would let ODLH hit and hold more easily (well, would let him hit and hold at all given that he did neither v Pac).

There's also the question of whether ODLH would have given Katsidis as much respect in the ring. Would he have tried to impose himself from the first bell against an opponent not as technically able or as fast as Pac? Dunno.

I suppose though, I'm thinking that ODLH just looked completely out of ideas and totally drained. So any kind of swarmer or puncher would have stopped ODLH that night.

Finally, I'm not taking anything away from Pac's victory. It was a tremendous result given the obvious disadvantages he had. It's just a shame Oscar was not that competitive.

 

Pardon me, I assume you were following up the dumb poster smacking on JMM.

But really, any top fighter 135-147 worth his salt would have given DLH a beating.

 

Nah, JMM is my P4P #3 - nothing but love for the guy.

I was smacking on Oscar :yep

 

Ah so marquez can move in/out, side to side while throwing punches?? I said come back when marquez can move like that. I am breakin' it down dawg.

 

:rofl

You are telling me that one of the best boxers in the world, a counter-puncher at that, who as a requirement must use lateral movement and leverage to get off effective punches doesn't know how to punch while moving?

Keep breaking yourself in half homie. Like I said, go watch some Marquez fights.:deal

 

My little brother would knocked ODLH the **** out in that fight, let alone JMM. He would have punished him just as brutally, either by counterpunching in combinations or, most likely, coming forward once ODLH decided to stop giving him chances to counter. ODLH looked like ****. Absolute ****. 10%, if that, of what he once was.

 

DLH makes the distance against JMM(who is a counterpuncher)....matter of fact JMM probably wins a close dec and gets robbed...

 

ODLH would have KO'ed Katsidis. that version of ODLH would still hit harder than the faded version of casamayor. ODLH would not have been gunshy against katsidis because katsidis will never be as elusive throughout the fight as the pacman we've seen in the fight. katsidis would not discourage DLH from throwing punches because DLH knows he would land his punches agaisnt katsidis, he would not get countered silly all night, and that because of his reach advantage, his punches would land first, katsidis not having the same speed of pac to be able to get in quick. all in all, ODLH's come forward style would have enabled him to walk down katdisis and land that left hook for a KO.

 

JMM is not as elusive as pacquiao to avoid the long range bombs that ODLH would throw against him. he doesn't have the quick feet either to dart in and out and win on the exchanges from the outside like pacman did. DLH would have utilized his reach advantage more agaisnt JMM and possibly win by decision or by KO.

 

Im also not totally sold that JMM has the weight hopping abilities of Pac...so far he has only beaten at very faded superfeatherweight at theses higher weights.

 

No, JMM is more than just a counterpuncher nowadays. If the opponent would not do anything, JMM would certainly press. I think the same Oscar would be more competitive against him but JMM would eventually wear him down and win by decision.

 

Style make fights.......I had said before the Pac-DLH fight that Pac had the style to handle DLH just as easily as he did vs MAB, and that I would pick him vs DLH if they both weighed the same.......
....turns out Pac weighed more!

Since both MAB and DLH dont have much of a right hand to speak of.....Pac has the perfect style, workrate, and stamina to dominate fighters with weak right hands and who rely heavily on left hooks.
......to them, Pac defends his opponents left while using his right to block or parry.


The DLH that Pac faced however had no defense what so ever. Pac could'nt miss him with the straight left if he tried.
DLH just was'nt reacting to it.

The way DLH was reacting so poorly to incoming vs Pacquiao, I'm led to believe that JMM would have had equal sucess in landing a right hand over DLH's jab.

JMM's footwork in the realm of punching range is so much better than Pac's.......its the reason why Pac was often times off balance and not balanced enough to consistently throw his customary power at JMM without having to pay dearly for it.
Pac's footwork in the JMM rematch was better, but still not up to the standard of JMM, who does alot of subtle things with his legs and body that are'nt noticeable to the uneducated observer.

If Pac threw DLH off with his footwork, I can only imagine JMM salivating in the midst of his manuevers.......

I will admit however.......the straight left by Pac is something that DLH had no answer for. That punch was money for Pac, and the reason he completely dominated DLH.
Pac could'nt miss him with it, and he was throwing it with real power.

I reckon JMM would win just as easily, but not as dominantly.
Pac's style dominates DLH's style everytime.