do you think joe calzaghes boxing style would be good to emulate?

Nick left out the part where Joe eventually caught up and overtook the bus

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Lomachenko has proper punching technique. Calslappy was nothing like loma , he was a slapper.

 

He had a great gas tank to out-work guys on activity but his skills sucked and would have been dissected in clinical fashion by a prime elite level opponent.

His speed and high out-put meant his punches were always thrown with horrible technique and minimal power. His flurries often left him squared up which was why he was so susceptible to right hands down the middle.

Hopkins was an ok win in which he barely won on fitness , not skill. The only thing that fight exposed was Joe's basic club level skill-set.
At that age Hopkins couldn't deal with youthful guys which his why he avoided a unification fight with Cleverly.

There's a reason why Joe's old man never trained a fighter before and since. Most people are not lucky enough to defend a title against Sobots , Thornberrys , Staire's , Veits and Salems

 

Club level really? Let's not get carried away trying to discredit Calzaghe, his skillset was world class, but his stamina, punch out put and speed were Elite. And we know Hopkins was an old man (but he still most certainly had it) when he fought Joe, but Joe was the wrong side of 30 and close to retirement so he was hardly youthful as you put it.

 

Agree with Dino. Joe was brilliantly effective...but an elite guy would have beat him well. His best wins we,re against older guys on the downward spiral.. The older guys couldn,t keep up with his incredible stamina/output. Attributes that he kept pretty much all the way through. He,d have been made to pay from a proper world class fighter with youth tho.

Massive success story...he was a good fighter. But spent most of his time fighting guys that we,re no good in wales with every advantage. He was apprehensive to fight the best. Tbf after seeing joes career....if I boxed its exactly the career I,d go after bearing in mind he seems to be rewarded post career...for not pushing for the big fights. Hiding out beating guys he could beat with relative ease. Outside of the older guys he beat...Kessler was his best win. Kessler was a good fighter but another one that was overrated based on a fan friendly style. There was no doubt Joe was good/great....just isn,t what he,s sold as nowadays for me anyway.

 

the skills he had consisted of throwing weakly in volume without stopping, and being adept at moving whilst doing so, not a broad array of skill.

but he could do that at world level for sure. but he didnt have some great skillset outside that.

there is absolutely and equivocally no argument for claiming joe had some disadvantage in age over someone 7 years his senior.
thats the only reason joe fought hopkins, he knew his own limited skillset could be overcome on tank, though he still came within a whisker of getting beaten on pts and/koed early by a 43 year old man.

 

have you seen Nomas throwing? sure he has zaghes speed, but the accuracy and power is way beyond.

a better comparison for Nomas would be Jones jnr.

 

Calzaghe was an amazing fighter.

 

It's bad enough driving some of these valley mountains, no matter running them... Lol

 

Lomachenko does not use proper punching technique. He has his own style which he trains by lightly tapping a board that lights up on a wall, instead of punching through the target. Most of his punches have nothing on them and are just meant to confuse and distract the opponent, to keep them on the defensive, and possibly to move them into a position for Lomachenko to land a real punch that has something on it. He changes speed and power a lot to keep his opponents off balance, and his mantra seems to be "Just touch 'em. If you can touch 'em you can hit 'em." So sometimes he sees an opening that lets him barely graze his opponent with the tips of his gloves and sometimes he sees one that he can actually sit down on. He takes them both because he has the stamina to keep punching at high volume throughout a fight, and he's hoping to demoralize and wear down his opponents with an accumulation of punches and the fast pace he sets.

It's kind of like what Rocky Marciano would do just throwing one sloppy punch after another. He'd land on your arm, your elbow, your glove, and then one would slip through to your ribs. Or like Ray Leonard and his flurries against Hagler. They didn't really hurt Hagler, but they looked flashy and won him points with the judges. We might also compare Lomachenko to another high volume high stamina puncher in mma, Nick Diaz. He mostly throws at half power so that he can keep a high work rate throughout the fight. I think you'll find this in a lot of swarmers. Dave Tiberi didn't have a lot on his punches when he fought James Toney, but he never stopped throwing. It was like rain.

 

Calzaghe could move side to side when in punching range & not get hit,his skills were very good why people run him down I will never understand.

 

no sid he was not hard to hit by someone who knew what a southpaw was. but 90% of his resume didnt. When he fought someone with skill they knew how to hit him repeatedly.


but green guys with no knowledge of facing southpaws had some difficulty landing on him. Joe was not elusive, his game was built on taking some to land lots of weak shots and miss even more.

 

Joe had excellent movement and footwork but you're right he wasn't elusive at all, he was a sucker for the right hand. Both Hopkins and RJJ even past prime found a home for the right hand, dropping him early.

Reid, Woodhall, Eubank, Kessler, Hopkins, RJJ etc all had success with the right hand vs Calzaghe. Luckily for Calzaghe he had an iron chin and he was also adaptable and was able to make changes to limit opponents success after they started landing the right hand.

 

how Joe could adapt is what was great about him...