Do you think Juan Manuel Marquez was/is juicing?

Absolutely.

 

Any guy that would drink urine, would try anything. But if he did use PEDS, who'd they help him beat?...He already had a great KO record ('n recupritive power) against tough guys.

 

Marquez is my favourite fighter of all time.

But after doing some reading about Heredia i just can't help but say 'yes'. And i really hope my thoughts are wrong because Marquez is a hero of mine.

Still. I will never call him guilty until it is proven.

I will just say i THINK he is.

 

It allows him to contend in his late age and be considered an elite fighter, both mentally and athletically, which is quite rare, especially for smaller fighters.

 

Reasonable, TJM

 

yes, but innocent until proven guilty...same goes to pac

 

It's not a trick question -- very straight forward. Your reply's not a smoking gun, just conjecture, k

 

Maybe, I must say though it hurts to think that fighters I like and the sport I love could have such cheating going on in it.

For example if Marquez's best win was the result of steroids that hugely tarnishes his legacy for me. How can we rank guys properly if they've been juicing? Maybe they wouldn't be as good as other guys if they wern't juicing.

It's bollocks and the sooner proper testing is done and juicing is stamped out altogether the better.

 

Well if he was it is pointless to talk about because he never was caught. If he is it is pointless until he fails a test.

These discussions get sillier by the day on here. Until someone is caught it is pointless to even discuss it really.

 

All pro athletes juice, including JMM... but seeing as they all do it who cares?

 

Exactly. Everyone went ape **** when people were accusing Pacquiao. Why is it ok to throw accusations at Marquez with no real proof?

 

I wish more guys were on PEDs

 

I think he is. I just don't see how he's able to land that counter right hand on Pac countless times, but then in their 4th fight he gets a clean KD and then ktfo6

Then we have memo and his undetectable power pellets. Then the fuss over not using USADA

The the Bob Father essentially making his own drug testing company.

There are just too many red flags pointing at Juan for anyone besides the biased JMM fan to say he's not clean.