Do you think Juan Manuel Marquez was/is juicing?

"Just for the last fight", he said. He weighed in at 143 for a fight with a weight limit of 147... I think it's safe to assume he didn't dehydrate himself to make weight, dip****.

You should probably have a look at the pics of Pacquiao from their first fight as well because by your logic, they're both clearly on the roids. :deal

 

nvm

 

:yep

 

I don't want to bother going back and forth with a blind-eyed Marqueer. At the end of the day, RANDOM VADA testing is the best option there is at the moment. Pacquiao is going through it. Rios is going through it. Bradley is going through it. Etc. But Marquez keeps skirting around it and it's clear why as he is someone who would even drink his own **** to gain an edge. In the current moment, by VADA standards, one has cleared his name and is clean, while the other is roided up for the upcoming fight w/ Bradley like he has been since 2011 when he hired a known chemist and steroid dealer.

 

Again, you have no actual proof and like so many other assclowns who voted in this poll, you're acting as if you know something that you simply don't. As I've said countless times, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that any professional athlete has been using PEDs, but unlike you, I don't go around calling people steroid cheats without conclusive proof.

 

BS PEDcquiao is going through it. The fight is in China for a reason. The tests don't mean dudu. When has an Asian ever been caught of cheating outside of the Olympics? At least in the USA, we call cheats cheats even if they were as popular as Armstrong. I bet it's random testing as long as PEDcquiao is made aware of when it's happening two weeks before.

 

Marqueer drinks that **** juice like it's water u best know that if he hires a top ped dealer he's going to be juicing..

 

Erm, because they are Pacturds.

It is like those fvcking god freaks, no matter what atrocities happen in the world, they always make excuses about how their fvcking god allowed them because,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Same with Pacturds. They would rather tarnish the reputation of any other fighter than accept that their scabby little hero was exposed as the most over hyped wanker in the recent history of the sport.

They fell for him being fed weight drained, or shot to **** fighters, or plodding bums like Margarito, and Clottey, and jumped on the bandwagon.

So therefore in their ******ed minds ANYONE who beats him either robbed him,or is a cheat.

JMM just happens to be their victim of choice. However I suspect he just remembers that feeling when the little twat went down, and he knew if they kept counting all night Paci - OW wasn't getting up, and chuckles to himself at all his accusers.

 

lol at people crying at accusations towards marquez; the guy is working with a shady as fk ped dealer

 

Here dip ****:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/8-chin...43407--oly.html;_ylt=A2KJjah4rRhSAE0Av4LQtDMD


BEIJING (AP) -- China's anti-doping agency says eight athletes have been caught using performance-enhancing drugs in the run-up to the country's key national sports competition.
The athletes represented a variety of sports and were split evenly between men and women. They included one caught via the biological passport program that monitors an athlete's blood profile over time to detect signs of doping.
The new cases detected in the second quarter of the year bring the 2013 total to 12, equal to the number of doping cases found in the whole of last year.
The official Xinhua News Agency quoted China Anti-Doping Agency chief He Zhenwen as saying the large number of second-quarter cases was likely a result of the coming of the prestigious national games that kick off Aug. 31.
''There always will be someone who risks doping for unfair advantage when the return is lucrative,'' He was quoted as saying. ''History taught us that the national games could well be the reason for cheating.''
The competition is held once every four years and winning performers can reap rewards from provincial, city or army teams even more valuable than those offered in international competition.
Standout performers also have a greater chance of making it onto national teams, further increasing the inducement for athletes and coaches to seek unfair advantag

 

Hard to say. No positive test yet...which means nothing. But actually training with weights for sport specific conditioning could have easily...easily made that physique change, which is not mind blowing at all. Average joes make similar or bigger improvements through dedication to training, rest and nutrition....an athlete who only lives for that and it is his job should have zero issues making improvements naturally up to a point, depending upon their pre existing conditioning, training experience and especially nutritional habits. But, who he hired is incredibly suspicious and the timing is suspicious. Guys who consult in PEDs don't mystically or suddenly move away from what they know best and what has built their reputation and what makes them money. To give the benefit of the doubt to ANY athlete when it comes to PEDs is simply being naive. 50/50 is where I sit on jmm......possibly just for the last pac fight....not before....and it would be stupid to now with all the suspicion.

 

First 36 rounds, no KD for MARQUEZ. Last 6 rounds, 1 KD and a KO for an almost 40 yr old Marquez ? WOW!!! What's his secret ?

 

Pretty sure he is but that doesn't take away from the win. That was more to experience of fighting Pac and timing. Most fighters are overwhelmed by Pac when they first get in with him, JMM was used to it so could think with a clear head and land the perfect counter.

My reason for believing JMM juicing is because of the obviousness of it all.

- Heredia on TV admitting he still has 20+ undetectable drugs
- Heredia admitting to FBI that the top 8 sprinters in the world HAS to be juiced out of their minds, meanwhile he is currently working with Usain Bolt. Doesn't take a great detective to realise he is still supplying PED's.
- JMM's crew trying to hide Heredia's true identity because of his PED past.
- JMM would drink **** to get an edge, pretty sure he would take PED to get an edge.
- That KD he landed on Pac in the 3rd round, he landed that same punch over and over again on Pac for 3 fights, yet Pac fell like a rock with 1, post Heredia.

Given all the above, you would have to be on denial to think otherwise..but as they say, innocent till proven guilty. Just as OJ is innocent, but you gotta make up your own mind based on the facts and arrive to some sort of common sense.

 

If he is juicing, it isn't helping him at all.

Frankly he looked worse in the last Pac fight than in any of the others.