Do you think Juan Manuel Marquez was/is juicing?

Probably as guilty as Pac!

 

Anyone who says no is a fokking idiot. You don't have to have a brain of a first grader to know JMM is on roids. Jesus Christ the is 40 and he transform his body into a 28 year old man and tripled his power.

 

And you're accusing others of being idiots

 

Exactly! :good

According to Mayweather Sr. Pac is on PED's because Philippines is a country well known to produce power pellets rofl

 

According to Mayweather Sr. he got his ass sued, lost the lawsuit and had to pay money to settle it

Guess we know who was talking out of his ass. Especially during the court when Pacquiao's lawyers wanted to gather Mayweather Jr's 3 failed drug tests from Golden Boy, they were quick to settle. rofl

 

Use the eye test. It is obvious that he is using. Have you ever seen a person on steroids?
Your estimations are ridiculous.
He is on more than your roids than your average roided bear. He's probably rockin' that 18:1
Definitely more than what you're saying. Even four pounds of muscle is hard to gain for a 38 year old man over a few months anyway.

 

U got PED's Genius as your conditioning coach... u think heredia was just giving JMM a gatorade. LOL

Ofcourse he's on juice down to the bone.

 

You clearly are ******ed and a waste of time.

 

Too many red flags to think he is clean.

The very sudden change in body composition/shape for an already elite athlete is red flag even without the rest. Look at how different Vargas and Wach looked physically before being caught. A gradual change in body composition/shape is understandable but to suddenly gain so much muscle or suddenly become so ripped should raise eyebrows.

 

Not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised at all. He has drawn my suspicion at this point, but I can't say I know for sure that he is and neither can anyone else besides himself and his team.

 

Eye test means sweet dick all in sports where peds are used to enhance performance over straight building muscle.....did rafael palmero look "juiced"? Do some of the fat slobs at heavyweight look "juiced"? Did andy pettite look like a juicer? Some of the stereotypical mythology tossed around here is hilarious. Yes, absolutely, jmm looked different and it was eye opening. Yes absolutely it is suspicious and yes hiring who he hired is a massive red flag. His age means nothing though and using a strength coach and nutritionist can make rapid changes in body recomposition in anyone...moreso in an elite athlete who never trained with anything beyond old school (which should be the foundation ) methods. Every single professional team in virtually every sport uses trainers...not because it is a fad....because we understand more about sport specific training now, and it works. People are acting like he transformed into dorian yates....when the actual change wasn't huge and is easily attained....and yes even clean. Although all signs point to him using.....obviously. like 5 percent chance it was done clean, realistically lower than that even. I just find some comments hilarious though.

 

Yes. He is!

 

I honestly don't know. I'm still willing to extend benefit of the doubt, probably more for him than I would to anyone else, as there is likely some bias and reluctance to want to believe he is...but it seems like quite a lot has needed to be extended lately, and even a longtime fan's supply can reach its limits...

 

Would it really shatter your reality if you came to find out 99% of professional athletes are using steroids and other performance enhancing drugs?

 

You'll never get some people to believe that even though its completely true.....99 is way too high in some sports...in others its pretty much spot on.