Do you think Kenny Bayless missed a KD in the 3rd?

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  1. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Apologies if this topic has been done already.

    OK, as stated before, I had it 114-113 Pac on my scorecard. Won't argue with anyone who scored it for JMM because it was a close fight with a number of rounds that were tough to call...

    But, that's not the point of this thread.

    Seems to me that in the final seconds of the third, when Pac was flurrying after scoring the KD, that JMM stumbled backward after getting hit, and only the ropes prevented him from hitting the mat. I thought that it could easily have been scored a KD, which, would have made the round 10-7, and might have altered the opinion, in ESB-land, of how the fight might have gone.

    What say you?
     
    Drew101, Mar 16, 2008
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  2. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If it was the same referee from Vasquez Marquez III the other day - It would have been a 10-7 round.
     
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  3. viperguy

    viperguy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's what I was thinking too. Marquez had to hold on to the rope to prevent him from falling, isn't that consider a knock down.
     
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  4. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    pac also got morales in an instance that he held on the ropes to stay up and it also wasn't called a kd. i guess it was a judgement call. the ref didn't call it and i will not complain. i would not complain either if it was called as kd
     
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  5. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    It was a knockdown no doubt but it had to be called as such. But looking at where Bayliss was positioned, he had not way of seeing that JMM's right hand is clinging to the ropes (which is a knockdown in any boxing organization).
     
    pejevan, Mar 16, 2008
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  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wasnt aware of this ule. Morales also did it in round 2 of their 2nd fight.
     
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  7. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    JMM was holding the rope as i remember...
     
    enzo, Mar 16, 2008
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  8. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    picked up on that too. it was at the end where they were both flurrying.
     
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  9. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    If it was legit KD against Rafael then it should of been for Juan.

    Juan was really lucky that it happened in the closing seconds of the round.
     
    Boom_Boom, Mar 16, 2008
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  10. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    He missed two calls in Pac-EM 2, rd. 2 and 6. What do you expect.
     
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  11. Archie_Moore

    Archie_Moore ALL TIME KO KING Full Member

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    Should have been, but it wasn't ruled that way. **** happens I guess.
     
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  12. angelos

    angelos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Should have been called a kd.
     
    angelos, Mar 16, 2008
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  13. punchdynamo

    punchdynamo Active Member Full Member

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    They called it against Rafa, so it should have been called last night. Interesting that the people claiming JMM "schooled" Pac make no mention of this.
     
    punchdynamo, Mar 16, 2008
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  14. Main Events

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    That haymaker left PAC threw during the last second of round 3 while JMM was holding the ropes would have been nasty.
     
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  15. kartog

    kartog Agent Smith Full Member

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    It was a judgment call on the ref's part. But if one would insist Marquez should have won the 8th with 10-8, this 3rd round would most definitely been scored 10-7 even before you'd consider the first.

    If you were really objective about it.
     
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