do you think lomachenko deserves the hype

He is a modern work of art.

I don't see him taking any more or very few L's in the rest of his career. He won't be dumb enough to fight on too long past his best.

 

He lost to Salido period end of discussion, a guy who he was supposed to beat.

PBF was 19 when he turned pro not 26 like Loma you ****ing fool and he won a lineal title at 21 at 130 he was lineal at two weights by the time he was 26 his wins over JLC, Chico and Gonzales are better than anything Loma has done.

With that said you said he was the most skilled fighter ever. I take it that you're new to boxing and don't know **** about it. He's not more skilled than SRR, Duran Ali, Greb, Pea Whitaker and I could list many more. Who has he beat to suggest he's more skilled than them? His best win is Gary Russell Jr. FFS you overzealous fool. Quit saying he's more skilled than Top 10 ATG fighters, it's embarrassing and disrespectful.

 

Pernell Whitaker, whose considered one of the most skilled boxer, lost to a shopworn, past prime Jose Luis Ramirez. Just sayin'...

 

Playing devils advocate here but do you honestly think that if Floyd had stayed amateur as Lomachenko did he would have achieved (in the amateurs) what Lomachenko achieved?

Also IF Floyd had stayed amateur and turned pro at 26 do you honestly think that he would fight for a world title in his 2nd fight?

 

PBF wouldn't have stayed in the amateurs that long his style was suited the pro game, he should have won the fight he lost to get to the gold medal. If he did stay, he probably wouldn't have done what Loma did in the amateurs.

 

Do you think Ramirez won that fight?

 

Loma got jobbed vs Salido and we all know it.

Well, maybe not you.

 

Man why did Willie get banned? He was one of my favorites.

 

A thread about "hype"....

 

Whitaker hurt his hand in that fight and won that fight going away, it wasn't close. It was called one the worst decisions of the decade arguably worse than his draw with JCC.

 

Definitely worth the hype. Fighters like him come once in a generation. He is overhyped by some though saying he is better than some ATG already. Still a ways to go.

Loma is a boxer's boxer.

 

The point is that Whitaker 'officially' lost, despite the controversy. Whitaker was able to fully erase the bad taste by whitewashing him in a rematch. Lomachenko's 'loss' to Salido is also highly controversial given what actually happened in the fight. And we all know what would happen if they ever meet in the ring again.

Whitaker and Lomachenko, 2 olympic gold medalists, went in there with very experience, rugged fighters with little pro experience. Whitaker in his 15th pro career and Lomachenko in his 2nd. You do the math.

 

He won 2 olympic gold medals, lost one amateur fight out of 397 and avenged it 3 or 4 times... that should be enough to consider him the most skilled ever, not saying he is the best ever. In terms of skill there has been nobody like him, don't give me that bs with Sugar Ray, yes SRR he is for me the best ever but Boxing evolved and Lomachenko is more skilled than him, he gets hit the least in boxing while being offensive, he has the best connect %. I'm not gonna say anymore about Salido fight because it's clear you don't understand the difference between amateur and professional boxing, let's look at what he has done since losing to Salido, beat 3 A level undefeated fighers, Rigo, Walters and Russel jr, already a champion in 2 divisions defending 7 times... all that in 11 pro fights. If you can't appreciate how beautifully skilled Lomachenko is then there is something wrong with you.

 

This is why you can't be taken seriously.

Who did any of the guys Loma fought beat for them to be considered to be great wins so you can make a statement like this? Saying he's more skilled than SRR.

Rigo beat a faded Donaire that is his best win. Walters beat a shot Donaire that is his best win. Russell Jr. beat a faded Jhonny Gonzalez that is his best win. These guys aren't A level with of the exception of Rigo who was old and dragged up in weight which makes that not a great win. If he beats a guy like Mikey Garcia who's a Prime A level fighter then that will be a great start. But as of right now you can't start talking about how skilled he's because his resume doesn't back up this most skilled fighter of all time stuff.

 

Loma Salido was a close fight that could have went either way , and was nowhere near as controversial as Pea vs Ramirez. Not a robbery at all , remember Loma did a hell of a lot of holding for the first 8 rounds. . Loma came on late whereas Pea outboxed Ramirez from he first round to the last.