Do You Think Margarito Cared That He Used Loaded Gloves Vs Cotto?

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  1. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And yet nothing from the labs, proof, evidence, nada. This is another case of Nazeem talking out his ass again but it imploded on Margarito. You either believe he had bricks or you didn't but going from the court proceedings and what was communicated of the evidence, I tend to lean towards Margo not being guilty.

    What's astonishing is how far it went just because Naz freaked out. Where is the concrete, plaster, etc? It's like if some person accused you of being a pedophile in public before all your peers. No matter if you're guilty or not, and probably in this case not guilty, you are still screwed win lose or draw. I think that's a bit unfair.
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :good
     
  3. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The lab reports are indeed on this wonderful web for you to find...to try and save you some time...yeah, it's all true, they found plaster.
     
  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Agree 100% What happened was all that worthless creep Richardson's fault. What happened to the BLOCKS that he claimed fell out?? Where was the plaster?? The tests done on that pad revealed nothing only that it was a used pad.
    I firmly believe Richardson caused that pantomime so Mosely could slip through juiced to the gills. Just look at his performance compare to fights when he had to be clean
    Nazim Richardson ruined Antonio Margarito's career & good name by blatantly LYING!!!! Both Richardson & Mosely should be banned from boxing
     
  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Cotto always looks like that, like he knows everything when in fact he knows little.

    Cotto is the type to rub alot of people the wrong way simply because he believes his words carry more weight than most.
    Reminds me alot like Ray Leonard in that way, only Leonard was 100X the fighter Miguel Cotto ever was.
     
  6. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    We were discussing the first Margo-Cotto fight, and whether Marg was loaded back then, based on what was discovered later on the verge of the Mosley fight.


    The fight you are discussing (Marg-Mosley) is not up for debate.

    He was determined to be guilty of loading his gloves.

    End of story.
     
  7. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yep, I'd venture to guess that lab that tested Marqarito's handwarps could randomly test the handwraps of 100 fighters and they'd find "elements that make up plaster of Paris" in over half of them.
     
  8. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    i dont even think marg would have cared if he killed cotto
     
  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    That is a blatant lie. Please show proof that plaster was found or publically apologize for LYING!!!
    If plaster had ever been found the CSAC would have made the findings public & Margarito would have been charged & rightly so. But they found NOTHING only a used pad. The CSAC were made to look like the Keystone Kops by Nazim Richardson's blatant lies.
    The case of the Vanishing Plaster Blocks by that fairy tale teller Nazim Pinnochio Richardson
     
  10. C.J.

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    All they found was Calcium & sulpher both are ingredients of HUMAN SWEAT !!!!! Not to mention handream
     
  11. Just Rik

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    I've showed it to your lame and idiotic ass plenty of times, you're just too stupid to retain pertinent information.
     
  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    WTF ???

    Can you read ?




    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2009-02-10-margarito_N.htm
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  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Cotto is no more than a sniveling coward He still couldn't LEGITIMATELY beat Margarito despite Margarito being blind in one eye since round 2
    He had to rely on his crooked NY doc to save him the embarrassment of QUITTING AGAIN!!!!!!!. Cotto likes fighting injured opponents like Foreman
    only had one good leg & Martinez who's legs were totally shot. I hope he fights GGG and gets another good butt whuppin, but he wont he hasn't the guts Cotto --> :|:scaredas:
     
  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Precisely!

    I wonder why instead of the lab reports stating that "elements" that make up plaster of paris were found in the knucklepads, they simply just did'nt indicate "plaster of Paris" was found in the knucklepads tested.

    Its like the CSAC influenced the lab to state it in such way.
     
  15. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    http://articles.latimes.com/2010/aug/18/sports/la-spw-antonio-margarito-sl


    4:52 p.m.: Antonio Margarito's camp was disappointed by the California State Athletic Commission's decision to not re-issue a license to the boxer.

    "We're very disappointed in the decision," Margarito attorney Daniel Petrocelli said.

    Margarito promoter Bob Arum said his office will file an application to gain a license in Texas on Thursday morning.

    Greg Sirb of the national Assn. Of Boxing Commissions said Margarito is free to apply in any other state to fight later this year, and will likely be viewed in a more favorable light elsewhere because he has followed the ABC request to first return to California before trying to get licensed elsewhere.

    California commissioners were under obvious pressure to play hardball with Margarito and hold him accountable as the CEO of his camp.

    One commissioner, Chris Giza, fretted that a reinstatement Wednesday would have precedent-setting fallout encouraging other boxers in major pay-day bouts to ponder cheating.



    "If you get caught, you go lie on a beach for a year like, and then come back like Margarito," Giza said.

    "He took his lumps like a man," Sirb said.

    4:28 p.m.: The California State Athletic Commission Wednesday denied re-licensing boxer Antonio Margarito by a 5-1 vote.

    More to come soon at latimes.com/sports.

    2:37 p.m.: The hearing resumed after a break for lunch. Margarito testified he once asked trainer Capetillo why he did it, and was told, "Yes, son, I did it. It was my mistake." Margarito pressed. Why? "He said, 'Don't ask me.' "

    Chappelle cited the language that requires a sparring permit in California and restricts sparring with unlicensed fighters, and criticized new trainder Garcia's ignorance of the rule.

    "Not only is (Margarito) in violation of the law, you're in violation of the law," she said.

    12:14 p.m.: Margarito said he's throwing himself at the mercy of the commission.

    "I'm guilty. These are my hands," Margarito said. "Whatever is placed on them, I am responsible for that.

    "I would like to ask for another chance, to guarantee this will never happen again. Had I known there was something in those wrappings, I would never step in the ring.

    "Now, I am on top of it. I am completely involved (with hand wrapping). I know this is my responsibility."

    11:57 a.m.: Asked if he has previously apoplogized for the scandal, Margarito said no, and added, "I am here to make an apology to the commission and the entire boxing world for not knowing what was in those wrappings."

    Margarito testified that "anything placed in the wrapping that is illegal is cheating."

    He said he "did not know what was contained in these wrappings. I'm beinbg completely honest with all of you and the boxing world."

    Later, he confided, "I'm guilty. These are my hands. Whatever is placed on them, I am responsible for that."

    11:36 a.m.: Under questioning from Chappelle, Margarito said he has sparred in Oxnard with new trainer Robert Garcia. Chappelle said a sparring permit is required. "I did not know that," Margarito said. He said he's now training alone in Tijuana for Pacquiao.

    11:11 a.m.: Daniel Petrocelli opened his remarks in Margarito's defense by saying trainer Capetillo is "solely responsible' for hand wraps case, noting the commission previously found the trainer's February 2009 testimony was "not credible."

    "Of course (Margarito) denies that he didn't know, he always has," Petrocelli said. "He can't admit to something that's false. That's perjury."



    10:40 a.m.: State attorney Karen Chappelle tells commission "overwhelming proof of reform" is required to reinstate Margarito.

    With HBO's "24/7" cameras rolling, Chappelle asked, "What has been done to show contrition or remorse? Has he acknowledged wrongdoing?" She said those details are "critical" to reinstatement.

    Margarito has maintained he didn't know his trainer inserted anything improper into his hand wraps.

    "Mr. Margarito makes his living with his fists," she said. "He knows what's in the wrapping. His fists are a legal weapon."

    Chappelle also let it be known that the state's ruling is being watched by all of boxing.

    "The integrity of the California commission is front and center," Chappelle said.

    10:11 a.m.: The Times is live at the California State Athletic Commission hearing in downtown Los Angeles to determine whether boxer Antonio Margarito will have his license reinstated.

    Margarito hasn't fought in the U.S. since January 2009, when state authorities confiscated hardened insert pads from inside his hand wraps before his welterweight title defense against Shane Mosley at Staples Center. The insert was later found to contain substances in plaster of Paris, and in February 2009, Margarito was stripped of his license along with his trainer Javier Capetillo.

    Tijuana's Margarito returned to the ring in Mexico in May, and now has a scheduled Nov. 13 date against Manny Pacquiao.

    Margarito has insisted he didn't know the inserts were in his wraps.