Do you think Margarito will someday be forgiven just as Mosley was?

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    jasper,now theres some info that puts your views in perspective. my respect.
     
  2. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Mosely and Roy Jones Jr were both allowed to escape un punished for using steroids Margarito was Banned for a year because he was SUSPECTED of trying to load his gloves. Where is the justce thereits pure hypocracy
     
  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    I have only one thing to say regarding Mosely and steroid use. HgH is not detectable using the pee test given to fighters. Steroid abusers know this. Who's to say he wasnt using HgH ? It might explain his dramatic improvement from the fighter that met clottey & mayorga.
     
  4. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Suspected???

    :huh


    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3897765

    Bro, there was no suspecting anything. The wraps were tested and found to be illegal and his liscense was revoked.
     
  5. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mosley never fought Clottey.
     
  6. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    He wasn't suspected. He was CAUGHT. :patsch
     
  7. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    You have been jumping in this thread desperately trying to justify Margarito's actions by comparing what he did with Mosley's use of EPO. Even though both are considered cheating they are NOT the same and what Margarito attempted to do is CLEARLY worse so please cut the crap.
     
  8. dbdbdb

    dbdbdb Active Member Full Member

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    Good point and its not just hypocrisy ....

    Its In you face BLATANT HYPOCRISY!!!!!
     
  9. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    what the hell does that have to do with the quote? count the number of times i JUMPED into this thread and count the times you jumped in. talk about crap.
     
  10. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    :huh

    Did people forget that it was tested and proven that he tried to load his gloves? Like, were there people who were maybe on Survivor Mahwahu that month and missed it due to no internet or tv? I mean, I thought it was pretty well known that it happned?

    I dont know...maybe the rest of us have inside sources that you guys dont have...because there was no conspiracy or hypocracy. There was just one scumbag who tried to do something akin to assault with a deadly weapon.

    Why the **** do people forget this?
     
  11. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Rather than go through your entire post, I 'll focus on point 7 as it is the most outlandish in my opinion.

    This is indeed correct

    There's a first time for everying. Being that no one here knows a whole lot regarding the situation, no one here has enough information to give an accurate estimation as to whether or not this has been done before by Margo or someone from his team

    Shane was acutally juicing 5 years ago, but I agree that he was probably clean for this fight.

    Not neccesarily. Styles make fights. Shane is bigger than Cotto and has a much better chin. I don't know what happened, but it would be reasonable to see why they would want to increase Margo's power against a bigger, more durable fighter in the form of Mosley.

    I assume we're talking about the second Cintron fight. Now why would Margo see him as much of a threat considering he already destroyed him? Cintron was handpicked by Top Rank.

    What are you a forensic expert? This line is completely ridiculous. I can bring up a bunch of fighters who have gotten their faces torn up in the ring. That's what happens when you get punched in the face repeatedly. Go watch any Gatti or Katsidis fight. Their faces are way worse than anyone's face who fought Margo.

    It would also be consistent with continuously being punched in the face. If I punch someone and cause a cut or swelling, and then keep punching them guess what? The cut and swelling will just get worse.

    Neither one of them said they knew Margo's gloves were loaded. Cotto even said that he assumed Margo's gloves weren't loaded when this story broke. Furthermore, Cintron recently said the hardest he had ever been hit was against Martinez.

    This is laughable. You're taking a huge leap with this statement.

    This is also ridiculous. Because he beat the hell out of Martinez, and Capitello wasn't there, that proves that he's instructing people to load his gloves? I can't begin to tell you how silly this is. Nothing that happened in that Martinez fight was out of the ordinary. And if you look at past instances of cheating, it's ususally always the trainer who comes up with the idea, not the fighter. In the end, I can't tell you what exactly happened with Margo. However, your rationale for him being a long time cheater and the mastermind behind this whole thing is full of holes. No one here has felt the wraps. No one knows how heavy they were, or how they felt. All we know was that there was subtances on there that wasn't tape or gauze which as all that is allowed. Without this information, no one can say whether or not Margo should've known something was up or how much damage could've been done had he not been caught. Incidently, one guy who did feel the wraps(Richardson), and who was there when it all happened firmly believes Margo was in the dark about the whole thing. Now how does that fit into your "circumstantial evidence"?
     
  12. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Playing Devil's advocate here, it was never proven that Margo loaded his gloves. What was proven was that there was something in his wraps that wasn't tape or gauze. If anything besides those two materials are found in your wraps, that's grounds for suspension. Even if they found a knucklepad designed to protect his hands, that would be grounds for suspension.
     
  13. venomus_p4p

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    :lol: :patsch
     
  14. MAG1965

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    yes I meant Shane. I hate when I do that. Looks idiotic. I should pay attention more.
     
  15. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A circumstancial case is built on several different pieces of evidence. It is easy to pick a part a case point by point but when you look at the case as a whole it leads to one conclusion. In other words take you head out of the sand . . . take off your blinders . . . or ever you want to call it. If A$$hole MArgocheater was taken to a civil court a strong case to could be made that would meet legal requirement. In other words the per ponderous of is a much lower standard to meet then in a criminal court were you have to prove your case beyond a resonable doubt.