Do you think Mayweather ever intended to fight Pacquiao....

floyd said he is out to clean the sport. he is not only dishonest but is playing even his hardcore fans. seriously, who here believes that he is out to clean the sport and then go on vacation and lose his urge afterwards?[/quote]

No way is pacquiao ever going to be a bigger draw then mayweather, so it wasnt manny agreeing to a 50/50 it was just something that both camps knew will happen because no party deserves a bigger share at all.

Could you answer my questions aswell? Thats if you think floyd didnt have any intention on fighting manny.

 

Damn this poll will surely make all the *****s cry.

 

He's doing every possible way how to protect himself for not being branded a coward for running away from a mega fight with Paquiao. But I think he is really running out of excuses and many people already believe that he has no intension of fighting Pacquiao. The losers here are his fans, his followers that always refuse to see the truth. Floyd is a great fighter but lacking of courage and that is too fight someone that has a chance to beat him.

 

I don't think he wants to fight him.

He has the ability to beat Pac, but there's a risk of losing there (one that is larger than usual) and he's not comfortable with taking that risk.

 

This is the best you could come with...seriously?

*First and foremost, Pac has never and will never be the PPV draw that PBF is, bottom line and history has more than shown that. So I'm not even going to acknowledge that dumb ****.

*Secondly, PBF didn't "have" to agree to ****, he could have easily pulled a ***** move like your boy and walked from the fight. He didn't though, he agreed and pressed on. Glove size, ring size, weight penalty etc, he agreed and DID NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.

*Third, PBF went to the media to expose Top Rank and Manny, for the lying bitches that they were shown to be. That isn't a debate, they were caught lying, multiple times during the negotiation process. The went so far with this dishonesty that the Mediator HAD TO release otherwise confidential information per the contract terms. Think about that, they lied to the degree that dude had to come out with a statement to correct the public record. PBF wanted the fight bad enough to compromise AND utilize a mediator, period.

*Lastly, whether his intentions are to clean the sport or not, the bototm line is that your boy ducked the tests, and IMMEDIATELY signed to fight Clottey. Roach stated drug testing wasn't a problem, and that it had already been agreed to prior to negotiations beginning. Manny walked from the fight...not PBF, no debating this.

 

Of course hes serious about fighting Pacquiao ( stupid thread/question ) , the one thing people have to remember is , Floyd was all set to fight but MANNY turned down the fight because he didnt want his blood tested . That is cast iron FACT everything else is speculation and uncertainty , so based on FACTS Manny is the reason the fights not happening because he was the one who turned it down. Why do people feel the need to keep making new Floyd v Manny threads every 5 seconds repeating the same **** over and over !

 

Of course he intended to fight Manny by proxy war.

When Manny is about to fight Hatton, he announced he is fighting too! And he fought Pac's prior opponent - JMM.

Thinking that by winning against JMM, he "won" his war.

Then Pac obliterated Hatton in 2 rounds, they started the A-side Meff thory.

 

WHy else would he bump his negotiating position from 7 days to 14 days shortly before talks broke down if it wasn't for the fact that he was trying to make the deal. Also agreeing to all details and then adding in drug testing is a pretty wierd and never before seen way of getting out of a fight. The way to duck a fight is to price yourself out. Thats tried and tested.

 

did you fail to recognize that at the time the first negotiation happens, pac-cotto did outsell floyd -jmm by 200k buys? so if ever there was one who will demand a higher share, it would be pac. so it was basically pac agreeing to floyd who just came fom retirement on a 50-50 deal.

floyd has to agree to make it like he is interested in the fight. pac's demand of weight penalty makes sure that the fight goes on even if someone weighs over. floyd's demand of OSDT would scrap the figth when someone fails it. even in their demands, you would see who wants this fight more. and you are ******ed if you think glove or ring size was pac's demand or at least in pac's best interest only. floyd had just fought marquez with 8 oz gloves. and why would floyd pull another ***** move by making a puncher like pacquiao wear a pillow? also floyd wants homecourt advantge and would never fight outside vegas so ringsize was actually of floyd's chosing since vegas uses it's standard ring size. floyd was even granted his request of the name billing and coming out last in entrance even if pac was more regarded.

floyd, sr, roger, ellerbe had went to the media on public tirade of pacquiao. you are not honsst in making a negotiations when you are on one side talking, and on other side talking about your potential opponent with crap. also floyds team was also dishonest when they won't even admit that their are negotiatons the 2nd time around until greenburg exposes their lying ass.

the negotiator claim that "both parties" could not settle a cut-off date the first time and pac walking away from the fight was just a floyd fans interpreataion of events that time. so what happened when pac agreed to floyd's cut-off during the 2nd time of negotiations and floyd took a vacation? that was floyd ducking pacquiao and exposed his real intentions of not facing pacquiao in the first place. floyd just keeps moving the bar whenever pac is conceding.

 

Nope

 

what a lopsided poll lols. my answer is "no" as well.

 

Yes, he did. I don't see that he had all these "excuses" lined up, either. A request, outside the norm, came from each side. Floyd agreed to Manny's with no hesitation. Manny did not agree to his.

When the fight was there to be made, at the table, with all sides actively involved...Floyd was the last to leave the table (so to speak). Arum was already lining up other opponents (Foreman/Clottey) for Manny, before the negotiations had ended. That does not equate to Floyd not wanting to fight.

What has happened since, depends on whom you choose to believe.

 

now that there was noise that floyd is demanding $100M for a pac fight, do you think he really wants to fight pacquiao?