Do you think Mayweather is using PEDs?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Nov 20, 2012.


  1. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    If you're referring to me as one of "these guys", you're mistaken. I haven't perpetuated any baseless accusations.

    Speaking of which, I've asked for proof several times from these idiots claiming USADA is corrupt and I still have yet to see any.
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    by whom? :lol:

    USADA has no intention to inform NYSAC. someone just informed NYSAC about it and it's not schaefer nor USADA themselves.
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    these guys didn't even read the article and here they are talking about something they don't have a clue about. probably, they didn't even know that USADA suddenly scrapped the winky-quillin test after getting samples from them.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    It's not a matter of corruption, no matter what these idiots say. The problem lies within the notification of possible positive tests, and the protocols involved. As it stands, USADA notifies their client, not any sports commision. And they ONLYI need to notifiy their client. There's no corruption in what USADA is doing. This is why the testings need to be done through the commisions, or at the least, have the client (GBP or the boxer) sign a form allowing the state commision immediate access to all results. I swear, some of you guys are still chasing your own tail.
     
  5. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Of course Schaeffer's not gonna go to the NYSAC and ask that they cancel the fight and suspend Morales. He'd be out literally millions if that happened, and there isn't another promoter on this planet who would do that either. That type of thinking is why your dumb ass lives in a shitty studio apartment and can't even afford a ****ing TV. :nono

    USADA reported their findings to those who they agreed to. Either way, the NYSAC was made aware of the situation well before the fight and chose to do nothing about it. That's completely on them.
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Dude, if Morales failed the tests, as was shown, and you think Schaeffer won't go and cancel the fight, WTF is the point of the testing then? :huh: And you are OK with that? Look man, I am as big a fan or Morales as there is. But he failed two tests, and in all likelihood, the fight SHOULD have been called off. Doesn't matter how much the promoter will lose, that's not something ANYONE should concnern themselves with.
     
  7. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Good luck with that. The state commissions are clearly only willing to do the bare minimum just to say that they have testing in place and are not really interested in catching anybody, and if one of them decides to get serious about their testing protocols, these guys will just go fight in other states. As it stands, USADA's testing is 1,000x better than what any of the state commissions conduct, and I, for one, am glad that some fighters are willing to go through much more thorough testing to help ensure cleaner competition. In Morales' case, nobody did **** about it, true, but at least Garcia was made aware that his opponent had tested dirty. If the testing was left up to just the NYSAC he wouldn't have.
     
  8. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    For Schaeffer, I'm sure the choice between losing millions and proceeding with a card as scheduled even though one of the fighters may well be cheating isn't any type of choice at all, and that makes him no different than any other promoter out there. Like I said, though, at least Garcia knew what he was dealing with well before the fight and had the option of not fighting a dirty opponent. If not for USADA, that simply wouldn't have been the case.
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    I am not saying ONLY the commisions should test, I'm saying they need to be involved in it from the get go. This has nothing to do with cleaning the sport dude. I think we all know better by now. If it was, GBP would be transparent with their 3rd party testing policy, and would sign the necessary docs to ensure the state commission is notified IMMEDIATELY for all positive tests, no matter who. What do you make of the Winky Wright testing fiasco? Told he would be tested, then GBP suddely pulls the plug after samples are taken? Doesn't that even mean anything to you?
     
  10. Cormega

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    The NYSAC and the WBC were both made aware of Morales' failed test well before the fight and chose to do nothing. Are you gonna try to tell me that they would have had they been notified a little sooner? :lol: Dude... No.

    I'm not familiar with the Winky story. Piggy brought it up as an example of "USADA's corruption" and when I asked him for a source he posted some nonsense like "Winky was always did complaining about GBP had no take test". No source... just the incoherent ramblings of a ****ing ******, so I'll ask someone who isn't clinically braindead; Do you have a legit source so I can read up on this subject and get back to you? :hey
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

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    What do you mean by legit source? Winky HIMSELF said it. And how does someone who is paying attention to the "cleaning of the sport" not know about this? :huh As for the NYSAC and their notification, do you know exactly when the NYSAC was notified? You know, that's not even the major point. Point is, dude failed, promoted under GBP, and they kept testing UNTIL Morales finally came up clean. And that doesn't sound odd to you? Have you even read the PED article by Hauser? If not, give it a read. It's a good one.
     
  12. Cormega

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    You know, a link to an article on a legit website where I can read up on this. If Winky said it, somebody with some type of credibility must have written about it and quoted him, right?

    You tell me, what more could USADA have done than continue to test and report back with their results? That's all they were hired on to do.
     
  13. santiagoraga

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    I Googled "Winky Wright USADA" and more than a handful of articles popped up. An actual interview where he voices his displeasure was produced. Believe it or not, it required minimal effort. Amazingly, I didn't even break a sweat.

    Give it a go.
     
  14. Florez

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  15. Boxing Fanatic

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    usada is a fuggin joke LOL they threw away the samples. that is just brilliant LOL then, goldenboy cancels the fight LOL