Do you think PAC was schooled by Marquez?

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  1. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You did not discover the America by saying that judges declared a draw.
    The rematch isn't in the works and I doubt that it will be soon, Soto and Valero are more probably.

    So I guess you don't have to say anything which is in agreement to facts or logic
    which could explain why PAC was schooled (sorry ... OUT-TECHNIQUED)by Marquez in rounds 2-11?
    Is the only you have is your famous "whathever"?

    I know, I know how many spelling bugs is in my post I will take it like a man if you just bring them up in the next post ...
    or you may just answer with usual "whathever dude" :lol: :lol: :lol: .
     
  2. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    In effect, it is 7-5.

    Was that a schooling?
     
  3. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Did I ask about the latest 11 rounds or you just cannot read my broken english?
     
  4. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    A schooling is when you win the fight. A complete shut-out. Certainly, that was not the case here.

    I'll tell you what, JMM won the midrounds for me, from Round 3 - 7, then from then on, it was a nip and tuck, close battle.
     
  5. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    To answer the very question that was asked from the beginning "Do you think PAC was schooled by Marquez?" was such a difficult task for all of you huh?

    It's just a matter of simple "yes or no" with an accompanying paragraph to evaluate why.

    I guess flame war is the new thing at ESB.

    It's a matter of personal preference anyway and explaining everyone's standpoint on the matter.

    Here's my take, JMM showed off his excellent boxing and counterpunching skills to Pac, but NO, he didn't really schooled him. A lot of rounds were bitterly contested and JMM never really had it all his way. He had to work overtime from rounds 2-12.
    You can't be blamed for scoring the fight on either man's favor.
     
  6. digiram

    digiram Active Member Full Member

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    Def. Schooled, but three KO's were awesome. I think he learned something from it though, and has a more varied arsenal now. He's not just jab jab left anymore.
     
  7. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thats first professional post in a long time, thanks man.
     
  8. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good
     
  9. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not at all. JMM did do very well and outboxed Manny for the most part, but Pac gave a good showing but JMM showed he was more skilled, but overall with the tremendous 1st round, Pac should have won. Far from a schooling.
     
  10. loui_ludwig

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    -Without the mistake of that 1 judge, it is a split decision for Pac. He had it 113-113. So he has it, without the knockdowns, 115-113, 7 rounds to 5 for JMM.
    -1 judge had it 115-110 for JMM.
    The judge that has Pac winning 115-110, without the 3 knockdowns, he will have it 115-113. Which means he has it 7-5 for Pac.
    -Lederman(a former judge), had it 115-110 for Pac. while Merchant has it a close decision for Pac
    -The media has it split between the two.
    -A lot of fans do not point to this, but there was 5 low blows(or more) committed by JMM. In a schooling, u do not need to do low blows.
    -Without the mistake, it favors Pac by split decision.
    -Without 3 knockdowns, it favors JMM by split decision. But u just can't say with the knockdowns, cuz it happened in the fight. There were no controversy about the knockdowns.
    -Media is split.
    -This debate in this forum is split on who won.
    -The official reslt is a DRAW.

    Conclusion: It is NOT a schooling. A schooling does not win by a Split decision. A schooling does not result in a DRAW. A schooling does not have the media or the fans split on who was the winner. It wins by a UNANIMOUS decision.
     
  11. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    I dont think Marquez Schooled Pacquio Manny was in the fight every moment of the fight, Marquez did fight back and got back in the fight no doubt and did a damn good job of it.
    However the truth about the outcome was not what Marquez did nor was it what manny did, it was what one of the three judges did not do, he did not award Manny that extra point he did deserve which would have won Manny that fight.
     
  12. loui_ludwig

    loui_ludwig Member Full Member

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    Exactly. That is the only controversy.