Do you think that if the commision agrees to better Drug testing.....

what kind of stupid question is that?

is finding a cure for cancer better for the world?

 

Best thing to happen in boxing in years. This is the steroid era that we live in now and boxing is a dangerous sport. This type of thorough testing is long over due.

 

Is this a ploy to stack up votes then change the thread title?

 

They are going to have to work out which fights are significant enough to incur the costs of these extra tests, as I very much doubt it will be happening for every championship fight, let alone a non-championship fight.

 

Another ignorant post.

Steroids era is during the Soviet dominance of the Olympics, where their women athletes sound like Swarzenegger.

Steroids is the easiest to detect among the PEDS, and you don't even need blood to d it. Using urine alone is sufficient.

The ideal testing for boxing (not for all sports) is the least invasive and intrusive.

If urine tests can detect everything, then it is the ideal tests.

Infact, the recommendations submmitted by the authorities is 2 random tests before the fight, and one immediately after the fight, which is probably very valid, instead of the 5-6 times in a month. The benefits of PEDS is not attained in days or a week, so what is the point of multiple tests in a week?

Posted this one earlier in another thread and if anyone not a Floydette would read it, it seems reasonable that:

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bLOOD TESTING is unreasonable because it is passe!

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Steroids is definitely out of the question as it is really can be tested with urine specimen alone.


I started even before the whole ****ing excuse of drug testing that it is impractical.

Even the people who run thes tests state so:

Dr. Don H. Caitlin, head of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Lab and for many years one of the most knowledgeable experts in the area - possibly the most knowledgeable – has stated that he believes blood testing is impractical.

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By Ashley Hall
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Sydney-based researchers have published the results of a

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The research found that the use of human growth hormones delivered a 4 per cent boost in sprint capacity but did not enhance endurance, strength or general fitness.
And one subject who was given both HGH and testosterone got more than he bargained, when he noticed he was growing breasts while soaping himself in the shower.
Athletes have used HGH to boost their performance since the 1970s, but no-one had carried out scientific research until now.
A few years ago, Sydney personal trainer Scott Andrews enrolled in a study to see what he might achieve with the help of HGH.
As it turned out, Mr Andrews was selected for the control group. He did not get the hormone but was given some testosterone.
" I think from memory put on three to four kilos but I didn't notice any change in my strength," he said.
Professor Ken Ho from Sydney's Garvin Institute of Medical Research is the lead author of the study.
He says the research team was surprised and delighted by their findings.
"The improvement in performance was observed in a selective aspect of physical function - that of sprint capacity," he said.

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So basically, it is just like saying it does not confer any benefit to an athlete not involved in sprinting, or short duration of power and speed.

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If you become positive with blood, you need to confirm it with a urine tests wheter the increase in blood cells is due to EPO.

Here is the article :

EPO is one type of blood doping. Blood doping is illicitly increasing one’s red blood cell supply. Red blood cells supply oxygen to the body’s muscles. Thus, an increased red blood cell supply reduces fatigue by delivering oxygen to the muscles more efficiently. This is why blood doping is one of the most logical illegal means of gaining an advantage in boxing. Training at high altitudes is a licit means of increasing red blood cells and endurance. This is why Big Bear is a favorite training camp of many great fighters.

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Although more expensive a urine test is sufficient to detect synthetic EPO

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, it seems that a daily urine is enough!!! The only drawback is the expense. But since this is a multi-million dollar fight, F*&&^&K the xpenses.

Or they could do hair testing. I am sure that Mayweather would love it especially if using p****c hair.

 

So Peje who is this writer "Ashley Hall"? I don't see ANY titles next to her name, but you site this article as "proof"? Please.

This type of testing for boxing is good, but far to expensive to put it on lower level fights. It also could be OPTIONAL as long as both guy agree. Any fight over 10 million though? Mandatory.

 

If you wanna assume most guys are using, of course it does...but I don't assume that, so...

...but an interesting point...aside from Floyd Maywether and Manny Pacquiao, who else is on such a winning impressive streak, and has enjoyed such a meteoric rise in the last few years? If a lot of guys ARE cheating the drugs must not be working too well...I mean, there isn't a plethora of guys in boxing who are doing amazing things, like there was in baseball a few years ago...

...if there were, then the "most are cheating" theory would have some merit.

 

I've been told the same from legit people in those fields of work in regards to urine tests being on par with blood tests although less convenient for costs, etc.The other thing I was told in regards to blood is that they can keep it longer before the quality diminishes, therefore they can re-check the samples at later dates, a main reason why they would concentrate on blood tests.

 

If boxing wants to become a mainstream serious sport again, then olympic style drug testing is part of the process to regain it's credibility.

The other process is the de-evolution of the sanctioning bodies to the point that there is simply one rating agency, one title per weight class and an independent elected organisation in charge of controlling this to avoid corruption.

Until they take those two steps, it'll continue to be a joke.

 

Drugs in boxing has played virtually no part in why boxing isn't considered a mainstream sport.

So whilst one can make a number of cogent arguments for why we might want to change the current testing processes in place, your argument about it returning boxing to the mainstream are just silly.