Do you think that if the commision agrees to better Drug testing.....

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would agree with that. There are a 99 problems but PED's ain't one. Still with the 99, this 1 has gotten boxing on the front pages. To have one of its elite competitors not testing doesn't look good.

    Put boxing on Saturday afternoon after cartoons instead of infomercials and you would do 10 times more for boxing than making people blood test.
     
  2. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Manny Pacquiao doesnt know what cancer is.
     
  3. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    That article was from a paper writer apparently based on a scientific journal released in one of the refutable scientific journals.

    However, it just came out of the Aussie television at a morning news 2 days ago and so I researched a little about it. The research is very very new or recent.

    But I assure you that it is a very valid scientific study. Not somebody who is a bureaucrat who would is definitely selling his product like Tygart of USADA.

    NBA, the scientific study is as legit as you can get. It even appeared in the mornindg news in sydney. The Aussies are very proud of their studies. IAlthough n the US, there are so much money involved in research as well as there are so many studies, the Aussies however use their money more efficiently.
     
  4. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Assuming that your argument that the storage life of blood is longer (but the French doping body freeze both urine and blood), what is the point of retesting it 5 - 10 years later in boxing?

    The fight has already happened, one guy either already lost, or got knocked out. That just muddles up everything. Assuming that it turned out positive later, would they declare the loser the winner eventually. A rematch might even be out of question as it take years to retest the specimen that they might be past their prime, retired, suffered defeats, etc,

    However, in Olympic events where there are Gold medal, silver medal, bronze winners, this is probably practical.

    See the impracticality of the USADA test in boxing?

    Infact, urine testing is more superior to Blood testing for the simple fact that :

    1. it is not invasive

    2. EPO can only be confirmed using urine. Blood is used to raise the suspicion that someone is using EPO, but it would also have false positive results like when someone is having altitude training or if the blood is taken when the fighter is dehydrated like IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FIGHT.

    3. tHE fRENCH LABORATORY ALREADY DEVISED A WAY TO TEST GROWTH HORMONE USING URINE. However, as in all HGH tests, the results might not stand in court.

    (imagine going to the court and the defending lawyer would ask how many athletes were actually tested positive for HGH (the number is 1) against the numebr of atletes tested Beijing Olympics alone > 500. So much for accuracy of the test that it was able to detect 1 out of thousands of athletes. The probability is probably lesser than asking a blind person to shoot an M-16 rifle in a specific direction and hit a bullseye eventually).

    Besides, an expert panel recommended two random blood tests and one after fight tests for boxing as more than adequate to catch any cheat. So why was Mosley tested 6 times? There must be an episode where he was tested more than once a week.

    PEDS are not miracle drugs that when you take it now, you immediately become stronger (steroids) after one or two days. It still needs time to act or get an effect. And that does not happen in one week. Your body won't excrete the entire by-product as well in days.
     
  5. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Soon blood tests will be a thing of the past since better methods of urinalysis is being developed. I wonder what Floyd would say if WADA/USADA announced it came out with a newer urine test that detectd evrything?
     
  6. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As if Floyd understands the intracacies of the testing.

    This is not about drugs. This is not about cheating or cleaning up the sport.

    This is about scoring points at the negotation table.

    Pac deserves to be 10-8 down going into the first round of this fight because he just didn't handle it right - He went trying to excuse it away and the minuate of the detail has clouded the whole sorry exercise ever since.

    Pac and Arum should have said - **** you, we will fight under the NSAC rules, not the MSAC (Mayweather State Athletic Commission) rules and if you don't want to thats fine.

    Everything else since then has been a win for team Money.

    At the end of the day - I've probably said this before - I think Pac could inject Bruce Banners blood, come the ring green and angry and still be outboxed because Mayweather's skills exceed his balls.
     
  7. Farmboxer

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    Void ran from Pac. Void found a way out of fighting Pac. Mosley had Void hurt in round two, but was told to stop fighting between rounds?! Why was that?!

    Pac refused to throw a fight with Void, so Void got scared!
     
  8. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    The portion of the boxing public who were stupid enough to listen the PBF's camp without thinking for one second... that's the problem.

    Manny didn't lose the round. People's sheer unthinking ******edness lost the round for him.