Do you think the judging in Canelo vs Bivol was corrupt/biased

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Do you think the judging in Canelo vs Bivol was corrupt

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. Not corrupt, but it's definitely biased

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  1. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What ever the reason is, you need to win 10 rounds to 2 to have a 50/50 chance of getting the decision vs Little c.
     
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  2. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If GGG got a draw vs Canelo after getting dominated, would you be arguing this concept on GGG'S behalf or only the other way around?
     
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  3. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Corrupt? Yes, it was criminally corrupt. Those guys should never be allowed to judge again. Make an example out of them and force future judges to be legitimate. Let’s make boxing clean by taking out the garbage judges and refs.
     
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  4. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Bivol controlled the fight from start to finish. He outlanded Canelo for the first 4 rounds and yet somehow all 4 scorecards had an identical score in Canelos favor? I could see one, maybe even two judges being extremely biased or dumb, but all 3? It pretty obvious they paid them off thinking Canelo was good enough to win convincingly for the remaining rounds.

    If Bivol had relaxed or tried to take a single round to coast and gather himself he would have gotten a draw or he would have been flag out robbed. The fight wasn't remotely close and it's ridiculous that Bivol was actually in danger of losing. You know Boxing is long overdue for better regulation if a fighter WINS and people are suspicious of foul play.
     
  5. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    The fight could have gone either way and if both were unknown Bivol easily.
    The more famous, champion fighter always has an advantage with judges.
    Ain't fair but is what it is.
     
  6. highlander

    highlander Active Member Full Member

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    so, according to a certain poster, if a fighter lands a "brutal" uppercut, even if it is just ONE, he wins the whole round! and as kiwi boxer pointed out, well that clearly means that the 5 uppercuts landed by the clen automatically gives him 5 rounds! see? it all makes sense!
    seriously, if an uppercut lands clean and results in a clean knock down, then yeah, the round should go to that fighter. but this is boxing and a boxer WILL get hit. but just because a fighter lands an UPPERCUT does not mean that he automatically wins!
     
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  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn't say I "agree" with the judges, I just don't have any problems with their score. I can see why they scored it to Canelo. Not sure I would give all those rounds to Canelo but it's certainly not unreasonable or something to cry about.
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I just call it as I see it bud, and most importantly I don't scream robbery after every fight or carry on about how the judges were corrupt. I'm not a drama queen like that. I respect the judges and think that generally they do a fine job, but they're only human and nobody's perfect.
     
  9. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Man Canelo got the most bias haters in the sport rewatching the fight I had bivol winning 9-3 but realistically the first 2 rounds were close and was separated by a bivol flurry in the closing minutes of both those rounds and bivol lost rounds 3&4 would I have given him all 4 hell nah but to say he don’t have an argument is another thing
     
  10. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    His mental gymnastics are on another level. Sadly, he is the first to have cerebral palsy of the brain.
     
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  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    You've already told me you do have a problem. You said if there's 4 close rounds and all 4 are given to the same person it is dishonest.

    So you do have a problem with it. Unless you've now changed your mind on this facet of round by round scoring?
     
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  12. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    No. Canelo won 3-4 rounds. Giving one extra in a close round isn't corrupt. All the judges had Bivol winning. Your guy won. What's there to complain about?
     
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  13. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Are you okay? Do you want to talk about it?
     
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  14. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He actually needed to make 1-2 more close rounds, and they would have given the win for him.
    He didn't have a single clean round in this fight. 4 and 9 was super close and i still have it 60-40 for Bivol in this rounds, but even with this rounds for Clenelo, they were super close, every single round was clear Bivol round.
    And they still managed to comes up with 115-113 ....

    Clenbuterolos can be dominated for 2 minutes and 40 seconds, shows in 20 seconds, land some punches, and judges will award him the ward, that is how corrupt, oh pardom biased i mean they are.
     
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  15. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Better yet, the steroid cheat was the 'challenger'. So, in theory (as outlined by the regular Canelo sausage fondlers) Bivol should have been given the benefit of the doubt in winning close rounds anyway - being the champ and all?

    But, unsurprisingly, instead, the challenger wins the close rounds.

    :eeek:

    Colour me shocked.
     
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