Do you think this is a fair top 10 MMA fighters of all-time?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by horst, Jul 2, 2011.


  1. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  2. rusty nails

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    this is fiction. please stop perpetuating this myth.
    yes he was losing but he was never seriously hurt and never looked out of the fight.
    sonnen landed maybe 4 meaningful shots the whole night.
     
  3. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Silva was losing on points, but it's not like the fight was as one sided as the scoring probably was. Silva dished out some damage of his own. And let's not forget, the main objective to fighting is to finish your opponent. Finishing your opponent is far superior to outpointing him.
     
  4. Primate

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    Me neither

    Agreed.

    Silva was down 4 rounds to none going into the 5th, but look at Sonnen's face going into the 5th round.

    Sonnen had Silva on his back, he controlled the fight for 23 minutes, he did no significant damage and was never close to finishing the fight.
    Silva controlled the fight for 15 seconds and submitted Sonnen.

    That is a fight I never want to forget.
     
  5. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Who got finished? In a real fight, if someone is getting choked and no one is there to break it up, what happens?

    Sonnen got finished inside the distance. Did he give a valiant effort? Yes. Would he have lost by death in a real fight? Yes.
     
  6. Primate

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  7. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Thank you.
     
  8. nuges

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    I like the idea of your topic, but I dont think there should be an "overall ability" grade cause many ppl here including yourself have no expertise in grading "overall mma ability" and is more of a guess than anything.

    Like some people on your list, I wouldnt even give a B+ in overall ability. They just happened to be pioneers in their sport and ahead of their time.

    Btw the grades dont add up, some ppl have higher grades but are ranked lower.
     
  9. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    great list man but i still think gsp needs to put further down than anderson silva.
     
  10. Flexb

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    Silva was down 4-0. Silva was on his back the entire fight. Sonnen landed twice as many punches although Silva's face can take a brick and not cut or bruise. Anyone can land a sneaky sub in at anytime, not everyone can pin Silva on his back and beat him 4 rounds in a row and 90% of the 5th round. I hate Sonnen, but he made Silva look like a ***** and controlled the **** out of him.
     
  11. rekcutnevets

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    Yeah...he was all manly until he tapped. That means he would have died if Silva wanted to end it by fatality, and no one was there to stop him.

    By all means, that's a victory for Chael. Much like Kongo's win over Barry was really a win for Barry.
     
  12. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    that is true but anderson silva on paper has beaten more opponents than gsp, but yea sonnen has been the toughest test for anderson but i think if anderson beats okami then he should be higher on the list than gsp. Gsp imo will have his toughest test against nick diaz at UFC 137 because stylistically nick has the right tools to beat gsp it will be a question of whether nick can work off his back but my money is on nick! WAR 209!
     
  13. Primate

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    Wow. That is some seriously amazing ignorance right there.
     
  14. horst

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    How can a sub win not be a positive thing? What do you think Silva bothers learning BJJ for? A BJJ black belt winning by submission cannot not be a positive thing. Silva is a stand-up Muay Thai fighter, and when he got into a fight with a guy who was so tough and so relentless with his takedowns that he wasn't be able to KO him on the feet, he submitted him on the ground instead. I don't understand how that isn't a good thing. That's why people train more than one discipline. Sonnen's performance on the night was sensational... and he still lost. That's because he was in the ring with a true champion. That's what made Big Nog great as well, because he had the skills to pull out a victory even when his situation looked bleak.
     
  15. horst

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    That's an incredibly ignorant comment. If anyone can do it, why didn't Sonnen just submit Silva instead of letting the fight go on so that Silva was still in with a chance?? The answer of course is that landing subs is a skill, and Anderson is far more skilled in BJJ than Sonnen is.