Do you think Tszyu ruined Judah or was he just destined to be what he is?

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  1. garren_h

    garren_h New Member Full Member

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    Who agrees judah fights better once hes stoped he then trys fight the ref hes a sore looser an big baby i think he doesnt take it seriously boxing i mean he just lacks self disipline hes made some cash and likes to be flash shame realy could have been a p4p contender
     
  2. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Gatti kind of situation too big for 140 too small for 147
     
  3. kwyjibo

    kwyjibo O RLY? banned Full Member

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    Style-wise, I thought Judah could have been up there for a while.
     
  4. Marnoff

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  5. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Zab was an amazing athlete who was mentally weak.

    That's not a good combo for a successful boxing career.
     

  6. But was he always mentally weak or just after losing to Tszyu?

    We'll probably never know..
     
  7. IrnBruMan

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    :rofl
     
  8. IrnBruMan

    IrnBruMan Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    :lol:

    God made Judah that way :yep

    it's his fault
     
  9. vegasdude

    vegasdude Speed is Power! Full Member

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    He definitely was never the same after Tszyu loss. He has a lot of talent and was winning the fight and got over confident... then the right came in. I bet he saw that video several times and just got stuck on his head. On a side note, I always thought he was way too cocky just like floyd.
     
  10. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Taylor was always protected, and what he is what he's always been. He should never have gotten the decision over Nard in the first fight to begin with.

    Judah could still be a badass at 140. I think he just gets beat down and worn out by bigger men at 147. If he can make it, he should get back down there. I think he had to tell himself he was weight drained or whatever to justify his loss to KT instead of just realizing that KT is a monster, and he ****ed up, made a mistake and paid for it.
     
  11. Marnoff

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    Bad post. Taylor was anything BUT protected. His resume has a world class list of names on it. There is NO denying that. Disagree with the decisions if you want, but don't call him protected.
     
  12. bald_head_slick

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    I am a die hard Judah fan. Kosta did not ruin Judah. Kosta landed a solid punch, but honestly at that point the fight was one round each.

    Judah's camp ruined Judah. His father's coaching initially made him what he is. It has also kept him from becoming what he should be. Judah's father's coaching skills reached their limit and you saw the resulting plateau in Judah. Unfortunately Judah and his father were too blind to see this and let Judah seek higher level coaching talent. He is still my guy though.

    Now I say this because out of all of his brothers Judah is by far the most talented, however if you watch his brothers you see the EXACT same holes in their game... conditioning and mental focus. You could also blame this on genetics too. If Judah could stay sharp for 8-10 rounds let alone 12 he would be damn hard to beat. He whips just about anyone for the first 4.

    So I guess in summary if I had ANYTHING to do with Judah as a fighter I would say stay at 140 and get with a more solid coach. Not at all knocking his father, but there comes a time when a man has to go his own way in life. Unfortunately I think that time came and went for my main man Judah.
     
  13. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To actually have comedians doing a riff on you being "the most knocked out in the history of knocked-outedness" can't help with your focus.

    As first losses go for very good fighters, he definitely felt his worse than many others.
     
  14. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude, put down the crack pipe. Taylor's best opponent before Hops was probably the 59 yr old Joppy, or maybe jr. middle Raul Marquez. AFTER Hopkins he went on a steady string of old welterweights and jr. middleweights. He was basically FORCED into fighting Pavlik, and he got ktfo in his first fight against real, prime middleweight. No denying it? Are you ****ing high? There's no AVOIDING it.
     
  15. snipe200

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    Judah just did not dedicate himself to the sport like he should have. A lot of guys would tell me they saw Zab partying it up even after a loss.