This content is protected I got it wrong. Tyson told Shaq he is on stem cell therapy, not TRT. As for his past, I have no idea if he juiced or not.
With respect, this is a *terrible* example of being logical. The fact that one guy is guilty says nothing about the other. The fact that they or anyone *could* have used PEDs shows nothing. You or I *could* have murdered people & say buried the bodies. Or if you wanna use something that does not necessitate that we got away with it & is not highly unusual... Either one of us might have a homicide on our records. The odds are very strong that among any couple of random folks they, & we, do not. But it is neither Fair nor Rational to assume someone did absent even any real circumstantial evidence. Especially when one guy was big by his early teens & without access to even weights. His putting up reps with 250 lbs. as a kid the first time he lifted is evidence his strength was natural before he developed it further. And some natural guys without that genetic potential can get very strong. Now if they are TOO big for their frame, or put it on too quickly, sure use that as circumstantial evidence.
I defend guys who are accused absent any decent evidence. But why "trust" you on Holyfled, who could you possibly know? Anyone light have used, he clearly did. He boxed for *many* years after the 1990's. He may well have juice throughout his career. Or more likely cycled on & off. Anyway you are certainly wrong about when he definitely used. He was a CW (when the weight limit was lower) until ~ the end of the 1980's. The Balco evidence-& his huge gain in muscularity, & sudden baldness, & heart problems-were much later.
I know alot about all drugs and reactions in the human body. Holyfield ripped to shreads at cruiserweight with hair was juicing. He stepped it up to get to heavyweight and went bald almost immediately. Theres other factors but its basically a for sure thing hes juiced since day1
If you think the guy who was scrambling to put his mouthpiece in during a grueling beatdown against buster pre holy... and took his beating like a man against lewis post holy... just coincidentally 'bitched out' by retaliating in the one fight he was getting repeatedly sliced open from intentional headbutts in.... and wasnt just genuinely incensed and lashing out at being repeatedly fouled, then... I dont know what to tell you. Seems pretty self evident.
I figured this. I even had a thread about it, I think. If true, he should not be allowed to have a real fight, which I kind of thought this was going to be.
I mean, Mike Tyson did end up fighting Evander like two times, right? Maybe Mike Tyson did get tired of fighting Holy, who really knows. In 2021 lets see if they fight again as old men if that time comes.
holyfield had tyson siked out from amatuer days. Those intentional headbutts you speak of are a delusion. Who was the aggressor and coming foreward leading with their head? Holyfield is tysons daddy. suck it up.
Pretty sure Tyson would rather collect armfuls of cash for doing exhibitions. Holyfield could turn a game of scrabble into a war.
If you can watch round 2 of their rematch and not see holy baiting and setting mike up to catch him with his head as hes coming in... again, I dont know what to tell you. Might want to study boxing fouls a bit more... because its boxing fouls 101. He takes a step back.. mike comes in, holy moves forward with his head down n blasts mike with his head. Pretty damn obvious for anyone actually understanding the action. Does Mike contribute to many of their heabutts? Absolutely. A lot of it was a clash of styles. At one point he tries retaliating with his own headbutt and it hurts him more than holy lol. But to not see the obvious headbutts from holy, and that mike was repeatedly complaining to the ref about, and getting sliced open from (intentional or not), to think his lashing out wasnt genuine rage and frustration at the butts and cuts... but instead 'bitching out' of the fight when he had taken all his other beatings with pride (up until he was a shot fighter at the end of his career), and that holy... a guy notorious for his headbutts, wasnt throwing intentional butts in there, the whole premise is just laughable. But tell yourself whatever you want. Imo the logic and data side with me. Not sure the point of this discussion. I think its headbutts, you quoted me to unsubstantially tell me headbutts werent the reason he lashed out, and instead he was essentially trying to get out of the fight. I disagree n think youre blatantly wrong. Ok... cool. It is what it is. We gonna go in circles over this lol.