Do you think Wilder will recover and bounce back?

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  1. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Are you ****ing blind? Gtfo
     
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  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    The blueprint is out... run and maul wilder... breazeale almost did it... Ortiz almost did it... Charles Martin just gotta practise the initial duck dodge dive, get in close... and let Wilder have ALL OF IT.
     
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Not if they KO him first.
     
  4. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably not if he does exercise the rematch clause. Just looks like an uphill struggle after last weekend. Fury battered him from pillar to post. Wasn,t like one big punch caused it like what happened to joshua. Even going up 17 pounds...he was still overpowered against fury and it looked like the weight gain effected his tank as well.

    What do you do with him now for the rematch?

    Cant really put more weight on cause he doesnt seem to carry it well. Only real option is to go for speed and get back to 210/215 lbs. The gulf in weights then massive between them. only real hope is fury loses motivation.

    Think there stupid taking the rematch at this point. Needs rebuilding. Would be best avoiding fury for now. Go for the rest...leaving fury as his last fight and give it his best. More chance against joshua. Although i think joshua would beat him as well but at least hes a very live dog in that fight . If he takes another bad beating next hes pretty much all but done. And be considered a bit of a joke...which isn,t quite fair to him. He could get more good wins...build his cv
    . Have a genuinely good career. Or cash out against fury in a fight that looks to be almost unwinnable after last weekend. And be considered a guy who,s only really got one good win.... Against a guy that was forty years old.

    He was outfought. Outboxed. Outsized and outpunched last weekend. If i was wildsr i,d be trying to rearrange a fight with fury for the end of next year. Let fury fight joshua first. Go away and Rebuild. And try get one of them after they,ve maybe taking more out of each other.
     
  5. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    No. Wilder is not Anthony Joshua

    When Joshua got beat, he took it like a man, looked deep inside himself, made adjustments and came back.

    When Wilder got beat, he took it like a *****, made excuses and blamed everyone around him but himself. What adjustments could he possibly make? He'd have to completely reinvent the wheel. He's nearly 35 years old and can't box worth a damn.

    Fury said he'll be champion again. He either said that to be nice or to try and get in Joshua's head. He'll never be champion again. He'll never be able to avoid any elite level opposition ever again and he'll get creamed if he fights anyone who can fight. That's why he's taking the rematch. He wants to cash out big because he knows he's finished and can't go the route of knocking over a few tomato cans before setting up a fight with AJ
     
  6. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    Even with defeat, we can't overlook the right hand. I don't think he will ever beat Fury, but I still think he gives everyone else in the top 10 a good go
     
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  7. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Look if he takes ownership of the loss and tries to work out a new plan to tackle Fury them he has a chance to rebound.

    If he is just going to remain arragont and belive all of these bull**** excuses he has been making up then I can't see him trying to do anything different in the rematch..

    Fury has shown everyone the blueprint to beat Wilder he needs to build a new machine otherwise he will never get back..
     
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  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I am not sure he can bounce back from this. He is a very low IQ individual, paired with a blind belief in Christian faith. For years, he said he was chosen by God and given a special gift of superhuman power. He really believed that non-sense. He believed he was somehow chosen by God to be invincible and knock people out with power that comes from above.

    Now not only he got beaten, but he got beaten in the worst possible way. He was humiliated and destroyed. Where does that leave his self-belief? He now realizes he was NOT chosen, in fact he's nothing at all. He's a dime a dozen and that is very hard to swallow for an arrogant low IQ douchebag like Deontay.
     
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  9. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Can he come back? If he fights a lower level of competition the way he did for almost his entire career, yes, he can. If he fights on a regular basis against the top tier fighters, no, he is done. I think he was a bit exposed as well by Fury. Granted, Fury is 6'9" so he can keep his distance while still landing on Wilder. The mistake most guys make is staying in range with Wilder. You either have to be committed to the inside or stay out of range. If you stay in Wilder's punching range he can/will take out anybody. Fury was brilliant in keeping Wilder on his back foot, not allowing him to throw his typical bombs.
     
  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    No chance at all Wilder goes anywhere near Whyte, it's been pretty clear he's done everything to avoid that fight.

    Of all the excuses Wilder has come up with so far the only crazy one I'd put any credence to would be if he said he lost to Fury on purpose so he didn't have to finally face Whyte in 2021, lol.
     
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  11. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder should forget Fury he's not beating him I think Wilder has the power to beat most guys in boxing.
    AJ v Wilder would make a great fight before one of them fights Fury for all the belts.
    If this happens I see a fit Fury winning all the belts & a lot of money & he might call it a day.
     
  12. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice one.
     
  13. speedbaggage

    speedbaggage Member Full Member

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    Of course. Wilder is wilder's main trainer. Even the worlds best psychotherapist would struggle to get through to him let alone a boxing trainer. Grandiose narcissist like Trump and Wilder are basically immune to treatment let alone take on anything from anyone other than a yes-man. You can play into his fantasies and temporarily have his ear, but that changes as soon as anything goes wrong, you're just scapegoated.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Jay Deas is Wilder`s main trainer, Breland was his second in the corner.
     
  15. UFC2020

    UFC2020 Active Member Full Member

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    There is no substitute for working hard in silence. He should learn from what AJ did for the rematch