Do You Think.........

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by 1stcontact, Oct 20, 2008.


  1. 1stcontact

    1stcontact Like Mo, But Better Full Member

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    Hopkins could have stopped Pavlik??
     
  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Yes - a younger man capable of throwing more shots in a combo WOULD have stopped Pavlik.

    He staggered him three or four times, but didn't finish him off.

    Though I doubt Bernard really cares!
     
  3. 1stcontact

    1stcontact Like Mo, But Better Full Member

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    I was only asking I am rewatching the fight an in the final minute of the 2nd Hopkins hits Pavlik with a left which you literally see travel through his body an stiffen his legs but as you say Hopkins didnt go in to even try for a kill so to speak

    As for him not caring im sure he mentioned something about Ko-ing opponents in his post fight interview with Merchant but I havent got that far yet once I do i'll post what he says:good
     
  4. TFFP

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    Yes. Even though his activity was much higher in this fight, I think he was still worried in his own mind about stamina, and his corner kept telling him to slow down.

    If he'd have really gone for it when Pavlik was hurt on a few occasions, he coulda had him outta there. But he backed off.
     
  5. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Yeah that left hook was the shot of the fight, but I think if he could have knocked pavlik out he would have. He caught him with a big combination in the last round and he didn't go down, Pavlik is durable no doubt about it.
     
  6. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He said after the fight that he was after KO's now, so I gotta think that if he could have finished Pavlik he would have.

    He was damn close on a few occasions, and after that big left hook in the second round combined with Pavlik's total lack of activity before and after I really was expecting the stoppage.
     
  7. 1stcontact

    1stcontact Like Mo, But Better Full Member

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    This is what he said to Larry Merchant in the post fight interview

    He then goes on to say he will be going for a knock out in his next fight
    he also says he would like to fight Roy Jones but would be willing to come to England to fight Calzaghe again

    The way he emphasised that he would come to England (repeated himself a few times) imo means he would rather the Calzaghe fight and then sign off with Jones jnr but that is just my opinion
     
  8. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    The Calzaghe fight would mean much more - he is still bitter about the SD against him and would like to avenge it.

    He would destroy Jones now - but Joe will beat him to it.
     
  9. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A younger Hopkins would have stopped Pavlik pretty easily I think.
     
  10. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I think he probably had stamina concerns in the back of his mind and so didn't go all out for the KOs when he had the chance.
     
  11. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    you could see him thinking about going for the kill then checking himself, remember taylor made the mistake of trying to KO pavlik threw everything and punched himself out
     
  12. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Yep, I noticed that. He pump the right hand back and just move away or throw a jab instead.
     
  13. 1stcontact

    1stcontact Like Mo, But Better Full Member

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    Do you think he will really go looking for a KO in his next bout assuming he fights again or was it just Post fight talk??
     
  14. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There were a few times (or more) when Pavlik was clearly staggered, and although Hopkins followed up with a few combos he didn't go all out. I think a younger version - without stamina worries could have perhaps stopped him.

    Pavlik was terrible on the night - I feel a bit sorry for the guy in some respects. He looked a shell sitting in that corner.
     
  15. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bernard Hopkins kind of stepped off Pavlik afew times, when he had him hurt. Almost as if, he wanted to prolong his boxing lesson and beat down...

    Sometime's those long long beat downs are even more damaging than knock outs. Because long beat downs over 12 rounds, send the defeated boxer home knowing they have been dominated in every area of the fight..every area of the art which is called boxing..there job and profession.

    "They cannot say..oh i was just caught with a big punch..it won't happen again in the rematch"

    Bernard Hopkins i believe could of knocked Kelly Pavlik out in the last round, he should of just kept loading up with straight right hands.....