Do you turn your nose up at boxer who "quit" during fights?

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I was pissed in a more recent fight when Acelino "No MO" Freitas quit against Diaz in a fight that was close. There was no excuse for it but he had a history of quitting when he quit against Chico.

 

Indeed. In a documentary, Joe Frazier's son said that His dad convinced Futch to give him one more round (before the stoppage). Futch stopped the fight despite the pleas on Frazier.

 

That stoppage angered me too. I thought it was disgraceful for Freitas to quit on his stool (at a time when he was tiring but not badly hurt) and then have his corner hold him up to gather cheers from the audience. That should have been Juan Diaz's moment to celebrate becoming a unified lightweight champ, and Freitas acted as though everything was all about him.

 

Yes he robbed Diaz of his spotlight that night.:-(

 

Depends on circumstance, but most times no. I thought Duran was pretty lame when he quit so early on against Leonard. I felt like Freitas could have gone another round or two against Corrales. Those are about the only ones I can think of off the top of my head where they didn't leave it all in the ring (which is what a fan ought expect at this level of the sport), didn't exhaust every possiblility to gain the upper hand or at least get some get back in a losing effort.

Tszyu was done. Peter had nothing left to give or try, though I judge his performance as very poor due to poor preparation which is evidenced by his showing up looking like your pal, the fat couch potato. Cotto was done. Barrera was done that first fight against the Pacman...who else? ...

Imo, a champion or a would-be champion will do everything that he can think of, everything that his corner can think of, everything his champion buddy, Winky (or whoever), shouting advice from ringside can think of and then (finally) just try to stretch it out a bit hoping for something lucky to happen before they call it quits.

Imho, that's what we see from most fighters and this is the primary reason why I have such great respect and admiration for fighters in general and professional championship level boxers in particular.

 

In most cases NO

 

I'd love to of said that i didn't mind a quitter but i do it's sickining...

For a start if you're fighting - you're fighting and if you're a warrior - you're a warrior and warrior's DONT QUIT.

When i used to box, i used to have the mind frame that only cowards quit. But many fighter's think it's ok and it's not.

Now i'm not stupid i realise it's a sport and the danger's of going on longer than you should is extreme, but the referee is the man who should give the fighter dignity - and stop the fight if the guy's getting a proper beating.
It's only common sense if a man is being beaten to a pulp stop the fight.

But to the guy's who quit, i'm sorry but if you choose the sport of boxing you've got to go out on your shield it's the fighter's way......

 

Post again in this thread when you're sober, I wanna see if you would say the same things.

 

You do have some points but there is a line to be drawn and there are some cases it IS warranted and should definitely be okay... you try telling the family of Victor Burgos and other fighters who could have quit and continued their careers etc the above and that you wont sway your opinion

 

I do see what you are saying, and it is tragic when a boxer dies, no doubt. However, boxing does not have a monopoly on death and serious injury. From memory, sports like NFL and rugby have higher mortality rates and rates of serious injury then boxing. Essentially, there is the potential risk of death in ALL sports. Hell, there is a risk of death crossing the road. Naturally i can appreciate your position, but boxers are acutely aware of such risks at pro level. To me, if you find the potential risk unacceptable, do not compete. This is the reason why it is essential to have compent doctors assess each boxer to ensure their respective health before granting a pro license.



I am not buying the "they were physically and mentally broken" excuse either. Again, boxing does not have a monopoly on physical and mental pain. Trying telling that that to a marathon runner who has hit the wall 10kms from home, or a running back who has just got hammered into the turf by a 300+ pound defender. Both of the afforementioned scenarios have the risk of injury and death, but in both "quitting" would seemingly be far less acceptable.


Consider the scenario we had here in australia at the olympics with "lay down" sally robbins. An olympic rower who stopped rowing when her team were in medal position. Her reasoning, it hurt. And yet, there was a national uproar, with 95% of elite sportspeople stating that her actions were unacceptable. Consider the uproar there would be in your own countries if an olympic athlete quit, it would be huge! And yet, in a world title fight its perfectly fine? go figure :huh



Getting back to boxing, it is the job of the referee or ringside doctor to stop the fight. If the fighters corner pulls them out, to me that is not quitting (ie, The thriller in manilla, gatti vs floyd ect). But if a fighter chose to stop via their own free will, to me that is straight punking out. Leonard/Duran and Tszyu/Hatton are examples of this. Hell, are you trying to tell me a clear headed Tszyu couldn't have taken another 3 minutes of punishment? I dont buy it. To me, he knew he was going to get knocked out and opted against it.




Ultimately it is all subjective and a matter of opinion but to me, champions fight to the end. Some of the great fighters, and fights, occured due to one or both parties refusing to give in, and as such, to me quitting is unacceptable.




But, each to their own




Sage

 

No, I'm still a Freitas fan.
He was beaten badly by Corrales, but had very weak excuses to quit against Diaz.