Do you view a Lewis vs Klitschko rematch was really necessary?

Who the **** are you to call LL a coward? what the **** have you ever done in your life to give you the right to sit there behind you're keyboard, kissing a poster of Vitali and call one of the best HW fighters EVER who had a long career and shared a ring with some very talented big men a coward for retiring as undisputed HW Champion of the world at age 38?

**** OFF **** PUPPET :hi:

 

A shot Lewis won by legitimate TKO after losing the 1st 4 rounds in a 12 round fight and having won the last 2 rounds before it was stopped... shock ****ing horror

 

Most of Lewis's jabs and right hands were power shots. Lewis took Vitalis and showed him no respect for his power. Lewis punches way harder than Vitali. Lewis was landing for fun Round 3 onwards smashing Vitalis face to pieces.
End of round 5 Lewis hits Vitali and puts his on ***** street leaning all over him and backing Lewis up across the ring.

And this is a very out of shape, old, past his prime Lewis vs a prime Vitali. The rematch would have just resulted in the same outcome but probably quicker as Lewis always came into his rematches in top condition fully focused. He would **** Vitali up basically

 

Not cowardly you say? The fight with Vitali was in June 2003. Lewis did not announce his retirement until 2004. He promised the rematch, negotiated it and then after 8 months of bs he "retired" after WBC threatened to strip him.

 

Not cowardly as far as I'm concerned..Vitali looked like he was hit by a truck AND Lewis won the fight..what else was left..other than to permanently injure the guy.

As for a rematch, if Vitali had won the fight in the first place..we'd probably not even be discussing this..so no Lewis didn't owe Vitali a damn thing. He gave Vitali a chance to fight for the championship and Vitali came up short. End of story.

Now if Lewis had gone on to fight other fighters and purposely avoided a Vitali rematch, then you'd have a valid point, but that's not what happened. My guess is that he got married, became a father, put on about 50lbs and said **** it..too much work going back in the gym when I got all the $$ I need and I won my last match and my legacy is secure. I already fought longer than most other greats such as Frazier, Marciano, Dempsey and at a far higher level then those that stuck around, such as Ali and Louis..and if I do lose, I'd probably end my career on a loss..why take the risk when I can retire as champion?

That's not being scared, that's a cold hard calculation on the pro's and con's of having a rematch.

Now if you want to get into cowardly acts there's alway Vitali's retirement against Byrd you can squawk about.

 

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I guess everything must seem pretty simple from your vintage point. Either way, I took upon your suggestion and rewatched it. Yes Lewis is much faster, but also much lighter and still inexperienced. I know there's a huge difference, but if you're implying that Lewis of 1992 would have faired off better against Vitali of 2003 I respectfully dissagree.

Why do you sound so butt hurt? I never said anything to purposely imply that Lewis wasn't entitled to retire, or decide his skills couldn't compete with the best, or that maybe he just didn't have the hunger to keep on fighting (which is what I honestly believe).

But, the thread was asking if I thought a rematch between Lewis and Vitali was necessary, so I answered. The thread never asked me if I thought the fight would have benefited Lewis, or if he needed to retire, or to argument why Lewis was past his best. All of that (even if Lewis was past his best) is completely irrelevant. As I mentioned, if Lewis would've lost it would have still been good for the sport because he could have passed on the torch. I saw the rematch as someting necessary because I'm not too biased towards a great fighter like Lewis that I'd rather never see the man fight again for fear of him losing instead of having the best two fighters in a division going at it again to determine a winner under more practical circumstances. A trilogy would have been even better if Vitali would've beaten Lewis in a rematch.

Why do you want me to put a list of HW champs who improved in their late 30's? Who said that and why do I have to defend it? Maybe you're confusing when I said some HW's peak in their 30's like Lewis and the Klitschko brothers.

Yes, but Vitali's cut never gave him problems through out the rest of his career.

Not necessarily, the first cut was because Lewis thumb rubbed Vitali's eye. Looks completely accidental, but after a bad cut, it is much easier to keep beating on the blind eye, which explains why Lewis was able to open new cuts on the same eye.

Actually there was one lucky cut, which impaired Vitali's eye making him a much easier target on that same eye. But, there is reason to think this wouldn't happen again, because Vitali has never cut easy, neither before or after the Lewis fight. It's possible that Lewis could cut him up again, but Lewis didn't get in the ring to prove it, when Vitali was ready to go and prove he could beat Lewis in the ring, not with words.

Did I hurt your feelings with something I said? I was just talking boxing. Don't take anything personal here, we're just giving our opinions on boxing subjects. Trust me, I'm not trying to insult Lewis who was a truly great fighter, and I sure wasn't trying to insult his fans (not even you). We can always agree and dissagree, and on another topic I probably won't even remember your nickname and talk to you just like I would with most people on here.

 

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Necessary? Not really. It's not as if Lewis-Klitschko was truly controversial. Klitschko was cut on a legal punch.

It would've been nice though. Even though Lewis won the fight fairly, it wasn't exactly the kind of definitive ending fans like to see.

 

No worries, I found myself agreeing with much of what you posted, and your reply was excellent..:good

 

It's funny how the Klitschko fans defend the technicalities behind the shot and try to make arguments that just aren't there. If you wanted to be incredibly picky and selective, like they are, Vitali should have been disqualified in the fourth for kicking Lewis when both of them went to the ground. By the letter of the law, it's a disqualification. Of course, I don't think it should have been but, like I said, if they want to pick and choose what argument to use, there's strength to the argument that the fight should have been DQed earlier than the 6th anyway.

 

Yeah, it was a pointless, classless move. Sure, it was a tough fight but when they were down, Vitali kicked him, whilst Lewis picked him up. It shows the difference in character.

I hated Vitali's reaction to Wlad/Sanders. That was appalling. I like Wlad a lot but his brother seems to have none of the class his brother does.

 

I think it was because Lennox was on the way to stopping Vitali. That cut got Vitali out of a fight where the right of Lennox would have started to land and there would have been nothing Vitali could have done about it. I was sure Lennox was going to turn that fight around. Vitali was starting to fall apart.