Do you view a Lewis vs Klitschko rematch was really necessary?

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  1. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    I thought the thumb was below the eye socket in that gif, but how it is interpreted is completely debateable.

    What I don't understand is - If Lewis's thumb went into Vitali's eye, causing the cut which stopped the fight, what is the explanation for the laceration just below Vitali's eye? On his left cheek;

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    I certainly don't think that horrendous cut was caused by a thumb to the eye. Also, Lewis's thumb (if connecting at all), connected just below Vitali's eye, so doesn't really explain the cut above his eye. That can be put down to interpretation aswell, however. I just don't believe a punch, or more specifically a thumb, could cause lacerations that far a distance apart.
     
  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    :roll:

    Mason
    Bruno
    Briggs
    Klitschko
    Mercer
    Holyfield
    Tucker
    Mavrovic

    That's 8 for starters.

    You keep harping back to the McCall and Rahman fights, but Lennox never quit on his stool vs a feather fisted cruiserweight whilst miles ahead on the cards.
     
  3. Overhill

    Overhill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    HBO post-fight analysis after Vitali Klitschko/Kirk Johnson WBC Heavyweight Title Eliminator: (Klitschko TKO at 2:54 in round 2 of 12)

    Lampley: George Foreman, what do you think Lennox Lewis saw? Did he see dollar signs or a stop sign?

    Foreman: If Lennox Lewis is Gorge Foreman-minded, he saw dollar signs. We didn't see the best of him. He should get into shape and get those dollars. Vitali was looking great and Lewis needs to leave us with a positive note too. See the dollar signs, go for the buck!

    Lampley: And incidentally, if he doesn't see the dollar signs then the time is to make up his mind and move on, right?

    Foreman: Yeah, he needs counseling if he doesn't see the dollar signs!
     
  4. bretchko

    bretchko ESB VET Full Member

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    Bottom line Vitali was kicking his ass with a cut and it got stopped then lewis said no way im I fighting him again
     
  5. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    This.:deal

    Some people seem to forget that there was two severe cuts, yet say it was caused by the one thumb?:huh
     
  6. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stitching on the side of the thumb caused small cuts and bruises below the eye. They just opened up more as the fight progresses. That does not matter though. The fight was stopped because of the cut above the eye. Caused by thumbing. By the boxing rules "Accidental + Legal" or "Intentional + Legal" = Technical Decision.
     
  7. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    At the angle which Lewis connected with Vitali's face, it's highly improbable that 'stitching' caused the cut below Vitali's left eye, never mind the impact required to cause such a severe laceration. Anyway, the cut being caused by a thumb is not a fact, it is your opinion. Plenty of people believe, and rightly so, that the cut was caused by a punch, and not a thumb. That is your viewpoint. You can't claim the fight should be a no decision because of an opinion you have on how the cut was caused. In every description of that fight I have ever read, I have never heard that the cut was caused by Lewis's thumb. Not once. Care to explain why you seem to be the only one to point this out?
     
  8. BlackWall

    BlackWall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    bruno? no war
    briggs? no war
    klitschko? yes, the hardest fight for lewis in his career
    mercer? no war
    holy? no war
    mavrovic? no war


    ali vs foreman was a war, or ali vs frazier, or brewster Liakhovich,krasniqi. but not of the above mentioned, except vitali!




    yeah and this is a good reason, that the shoulder injury was realy serios. vitali outbox byrd with one arm, but that's past. look where vitali is right now!
     
  9. BlackWall

    BlackWall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it was lewis thumb, that caused the cut! see the gif!
     
  10. BlackWall

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    yes he ducked byrd, cuz he was southpaw!
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    Mercer was probably the hardest fight of Lewis's career.

    The Briggs fight was basically a gunslinging match, which Briggs started well in before being beaten up and stopped. A prime Briggs too. STOPPED.

    The 2nd Holyfield fight was pretty physical, Evander really brought it to Lennox.

    I notice that you are basically calling Lewis a ***** for not having any hard fights, yet giving Vitali a free pass for quitting against Byrd.

    The other fights I mentioned were tough ones too. Bruno put on a career best performance, Mavrovic was good too.
     
  12. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because the rematch was being negotiated for December, tons of money was on the line and there was no point in stirring the controversy, pissing everybody off and jeopardizing the negotiations.
     
  13. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Please tell me how 'stitching' caused the cut. On the gif you posted, in no way could it have caused a cut in that position. Look at the trajectory Lewis' glove takes, stitching didn't cause that cut. And plus, you'd have to generate an inordinate amount of power to cause something that severe with stitching.
     
  14. Drusome

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    Yes, Lewis won fair and square and deserves credit but he wussed out of a rematch. It wasn't a noble way to end his career.
     
  15. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    oh, of course not....one fighter screaming not to stop it , he was ok...the other guy saying he would have finished him off, and all the fans wanting to see it.....no, it was pretty pointless.....DUMBASS :patsch