DOC's Official Strategy to win For Canelo and MAIN points to Focus ON!

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  1. Doc

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    How I see the fight Playing IMO:

    The first half of the fight will be about establishing dominance, will be about employing strategy. It will be about who does what they want to do? Canelo will be pressuring Trout, trying to close the space to unleash his bombs, catch him to the body and do what he always does, stalk his opponents and unleash bombs fight hard the last minute.

    Trout will be trying to establish the jab, range, and just outbox and outsmart canelo on the outside. I do not believe he will try and pressure Canelo, this will be his downfall if he thinks that he can pressure canelo.. he is going to get caught with a bomb.

    There are people that say canelo will lose because he fights in spurts, well yes he does fight in spurts, but what fighter that is a stalking boxer puncher like Mikey garcia or GGG fight with high output? its not about spurts its what they do in those spurts, Canelo always manages to stalk his opponents and break them down by going to the body and head with massive power shots that are thrown with bad intentions he always has his feet planted for maximum power, he has good ring generalship and knows how to close the ring and give himself opening by closing off and getting in range.

    There are people that say canelo will lose because of stamina, when has Canelo ever got tired in a 12th round? he always throws the same punches with the same intensity and power as the first round, is it so bad that he conserves his energy and fight in spurts? He doesn't throw pity pat jabs like Trout to win on points, he's going in there to hurt a mother****er and when he throws its with authoritative power, so if you think Canelo is gonna lose because you think his stamina is ****, you got another thing coming.

    At the end of the day, Canelo will win because of power, body shots and trouts tendency to chill on the ropes, or be stationary when defending. Canelo will win a wide UD or a late TKO depending how trout decides to fight after feeling that power.. I have a feeling trout will try and earn a decision by boxing intelligently with a lot of jabs and straights but his downfall will be that Canelo will be about power and trout will be thinking about points... ultimately Canelo wins.








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    Main points to focus on for Canelo


    1. Body Shots
    2. Straight right hand to the body & head while backing trout into a corner or turning him into the money shot.
    3. Left hook on the inside
    4. Combinations when trout is stationary.
    5. Avoid the left to the body.
    6. Smart pressure.​

    Body Shots

    This will be the main factor and what has given canelo the ability to bully his opponents late into a fight and whenever he pleases, he slowly breaks them down with power shots to the body. It's his main focus in every single fight, he is just a natural body puncher, he attacks the body from start to finish. With uppercuts and hooks and straights, Trout presents a lanky body which will be target practice for Canelo.


    Straight right to the body & head

    If Canelo wants success he must employ his main weapon the right hand, and employ it often. The right hand is a southpaw's nightmare, and if Canelo wants this fight in his favor he must turn trout toward his right to lead him into straight rights to the head and body. Cutting the ring effectively will allow him to do so. This is something he does and does well, he stalks his opponents into corners into the ropes and tee's off, Trout has a tendency to chill when on defense, on the ropes, or mid range and try and use reflexes to avoid shots, But canelos combos and body shots will be doing damage.


    Left hook on the inside

    If canelo does manage to effectively pressure trout and stalk him into corners or into his lead right, then when trout tries and exit to the left, Canelo will have his left hook that Cotto was landing many times and hurting trout often... this is where he can attack the body with uppercuts, left hooks to the body and mix it up with combos, when trout is trying to retreat to the left to avoid the right.



    Combinations.
    Canelos bread and butter, his combinations. Trout loves to be stationary when he defends, and many times cotto caught trout when Combos were being thrown...

    Smart pressure.

    I've hit this point many times, but Canelo must keep his smart pressure up Canelo doesn't have the best footwork but he doesn't need it because he doesn't box on his toes, he keeps his feet planted and moves forward cutting the ring.. so whenever the guy gets on the ropes or gets cut off Canelo unleashes bombs. If Trout was a great mover like Lara I'd give him a better shot, but Trout is not slick on his feet he uses waist movement and reflexes while stationary to avoid shots, and this gives canelo the ability to land his bombs in combos and body shots. So at all time canelo must walk his man down to be victorious and intelligently like he always has.

    Trouts Left to the Body


    Canelo must have an answer for this shot, he cannot allow trout to concentrate on his body from the begging or he may lose his ability to bully trout late into the fight and make it closer then it has to be. He must have an answer and that is by either coming into trout with a hard straight right to make trout tentative about coming in with lefts. He can also set up and uppercut to the body with his combos to dissuade him.

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  2. fytelod

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    1. avoid straight left and right hook to the body - if nelo can't avoid these shots then he's ****ed up. he will be severely weakened by those body shots and might be already gassed up by the 4th round. he already has questionable stamina.

    2. avoid getting hit by many flick jabs - those are not really power punches but can still do much damage to his face through accumulation.

    3. avoid getting caught by a left uppercut when he's attacking.

    4. fight smart - but the warrior in him will prevail and that will contribute to his downfall.

    i predict trout stops canelo.
     
  3. Doc

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    That was another bullet I had about the flicking Jab, that **** does do damage and take you out of your game plan. Canelo cannot allow Trout to keep throwing this, if trout finds a home that will be an obstacle canelo must try and remove as quickly as possible by landing bombs or counters to dissuade trout from continiuing or at least block them and come at him with hard counters.... If it finds a home early and continues on, that won't be good its one of the things I look forward to see, does Canelo have an aswer for the flick jab? does trout have an answer for the body shots and straight rights?
     
  4. RJJFan

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    The best advantage Canelo has over Trout is the assumption that no matter how the fight goes, Canelo will get the decision. Trout knows this and he will need to be more aggressive than necessary to get the win. This will play into Canelo's hands.
     
  5. Sweet-D-Willy

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    you're right about Canelo having to plant his feet to get his power punches off, but Trout won't be there for him to do so.. he will be moving to the right, flicking his jab, and throwing straight lefts to the body, forcing Canelo to constantly reset his foot positioning making sure he can't get off.. he's pretty flat footed. his best bet is to stalk trout into a corner or against the ropes then let em loose, but that's easier said than done against a fighter as mobile as Trout..

    a positive thing for Canelo in this fight is that Trout, every now and then, likes to exchange and mix it up. with Canelo being the more crisp/sharp and powerful puncher, that could benifit him... but that's assuming that Trout can't take his punches and how willing he is to exchange..
     
  6. Doc

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    Trout ain't lara bro, he doesn't have amazing footwork he uses waist movement and reflexes and loves to be stationary and defend... he gives angles, and waist movement, but he doesn't run all night, that aint him, he fights!

    and canelo always stalks his opponents into the corner or into a trap where he can unleashe bombs,

    we shall see who is victorious,

    trout doesn't move for 12 rounds all around on his toes, so canelo will catch him... now canelo does stalk and push his opponents to where canelo can unleash... what im telling you canelo has always done, and you asking trout to do something he never does, run for 12 rounds, like u said, TROUT fights! and canelo will catch him.


    Your asking trout to become lara and dance all night, thats not him bro:good
     
  7. Gander Tasco

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    Canelo needs to pin trout down better then Cotto did. It'll be interesting to see who's the stronger man and how they handle eachother punches - that'll tell a lot. I think Trout has a style advantage coming in with his height / reach and mobility. Canelo is very flat footed - so we'll have to see how he adjusts.
     
  8. Sweet-D-Willy

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    well, the thing is, Trout does 'dance all night', except he's attacking while doing so, sort of like the mindset of Pernell.. but you're right, he's no where near as lazy/tentative as Lara, who just tries to do just enough to get by.. i think Trout averages the most jabs per round in the whole division, that will frustrate the hell out of Canelo..

    anyway, this fight is pretty hard to call based on how unproven each of them are and based on they haven't fought anyone(to my knowledge) like one another..

    i can't wait.. the truth will come out tomorrow :yep:deal
     
  9. Bazooka

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    I think Canelo has to worry about Trouts right hook more than Trouts left hand, Canelo has an answer for that left hand anyways, the left hand upstairs or even to the body, a half step back for Canelo and fill the gap shoot the right hand over the top he will nail Trout with that shot...

    The right hook in which Canelo does leave his left hand low sometimes with his little cross over style he needs to bring his left hand up to better protect from that and it has to be catch and counter.

    When Trout fires that right hook, Canelo must roll under it, or Catch it on his glove and come back with his own left hook counter shot, he does that enough he makes Austin think before throwing that shot and limits him.

    I honestly believe Canelo is going to win this fight pretty easily, it will be a good first half Trout will put up a good fight but I believe by the 2nd half its all Canelo.

    If Trouts expecting to win here he is going to have to hurt Saul early gain some respect make Saul think before he does or tries to do anything. Trouts not really a mover he doesnt get on his toes an box, so if I am working his corner I aint going to add new tricks to his game now I am going to use what he already has.

    Trout likes to get you to stand still and tries to time you with his own lead lefts and right hooks... I would only have Trout add some head feints with that, give Saul a little head feint bait him into a false move then step back as he misses then you counter him.... but the key here is after you score step around pop the jab a few times keep him coming right to you.


    Canelo is going to try and dominate the center of the ring anyways and here you are giving him the center of the ring but your fighting your fight.
    Trouts also going to have to cut Saul to the body, but being as tall as he is, he is going to have to be careful when going there when you have to bend over like that to score, your in range to be hit as well.

    I like the first 5 rounds of this match tonight I honestly see some intense boxing/brawling by the sixth round we should see one guy take over, I believe that to be Canelo but if Trout brings his A easily it could be Austin.

    I believe Trouts desire to win may be his downfall here, I also believe his misconception of Canelo is going to bite him in the ass.... You have to want it in order to win, But I think Trout may want it a little too much....
     
  10. Kid Cubano

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    Canelos best weapon in this fight must be body shots, trout instead must keep the fight from the outside. Whoever is successful in their plans will win this fight .
    Doc , how nervous are you today? Your boy will graduate today if he beats Trout.
     
  11. twenty1

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    Nice analysis. I'm starting to feel that Canelo takes this one. I always liked his style and when challenged he steps up to the plate.
     
  12. BENNY BLANCO

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    damn I cant wait for this fight!
     
  13. Doc

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    Get this **** out of my thread *****.
     
  14. twenty1

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    Hey man quit posting this ****, this is the 2nd thread you posted this **** in.

    Mods, reign down on this noob.
     
  15. Bazooka

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    Report him man this is the fourth thread already