Does a Prime Holmes beat a prime Tyson?

My guess is that Tyson was always going to be poison for Holmes.

Holmes would not quite be able to trade with him, and he would not quite be able to stay away from him.

If you sit on the fence against Tyson, you are going to get splinters in your posterior.

 

Would of been a very good fight. Tyson by UD for me. Takes too many early rounds.

 

Tyson by ko . styles make fights

 

Do your thing McG

 

Some people have this mythical view of Mike Tyson, this belief that with Cus he would have been unstoppable. Some have a similar view of Lewis as well.

Against Tyson you would need to be able to turn the BOXING match into a FIGHT. OF course it requires the ability to take a few punches in order to defuse the raging time bomb Tyson is in the first few rounds. You have to tie him up and tame him because he doesn't set a pace.

Tyson just comes out swinging. It's up to the opponent to set a pace. Not many can do this. By the time you've tried you're usually looking at the ceiling lights, if your eyes are even open. Larry is one of the few who CAN tame Mike in the early going.

Like I said in an earlier post (THAT SOMEONE HERE COPIED) Larry would have to be in the shape he was in against Ali. He brought his A-game because he didn't know what to expect with Ali.

Larry was strong enough to turn a boxing match into a FIGHT. He could do it all. He is the one heavyweight who had an answer for nearly every style. Though Ali would win a close one against Larry, Larry could beat everyone else that Ali could in an easier fashion than ALi. The exception is Joe Louis who loses to Ali but beats Holmes.

Larry pops the jab hard and fast in the early going. As Mike rushes in Larry might take a few but not enough to KO him. He ties Mike up, frustrates him and bullies him like Mike has done to so many others. If we are taking both in their prime the edge would certainly go to Holmes because his prime was at 30 and Mike's was at 22-23. Larry is the more mature and seasoned veteran.

I can't count the number of times I've seen Tyson fight and wonder why his opponent doesn't see obvious leaks in his defense or capitalize on the huge mistakes Mike often made in the ring. People are so busy watching Tyson that they can't focus on what the opponent is doing. Usually they're terrified.

Larry would fight King Kong. You have to understand what a man has inside. Larry is the oldest of a large family........WITH NO FATHER. He was Big Brother, provider, protector. There will be no fear factor here. Mike often cried before fights. Larry would get under his skin. Go ahead and say he did that already and paid when he actually fought Mike. I was there. I have seen Mike fight live 6 times. I KNOW Larry wasn't ready. He either took the fight on short notice or not at all. Jim Jacobs was a very smart man. HE did most of Mike's work for him, not Cus.

Mike would certainly be a hand full in the early going. However, Holmes is one of the FEW who would defuse Mike early and get past the raging bomb Mike is in the early rounds. You have to FIGHT him, PUSH him, FOUL him when he fouls YOU and even more so. Larry was generally a clean fighter and decent person. However, he can fight Clean, Dirty or anyway you wanna go with it.

Larry would do everything that needs to be done to take Mike out of his game early. Everyone had a game plan. Most would work provided you can stop Mike from doing what he does best and, above all, D'ont Be Afraid. Evander and Buster KNEW this. Hell, Evander should be locked up for the things he did to Mike in the ring. After 6 it was like Man vs Boy. Holyfield looked Ten Feet Tall. Mike was mesmerized.

Larry would do the same. It would take him a few rounds to let Mike KNOW "This is how we will do it". Once you take charge you can control the situation. Larry would take charge, tame Mike early then beat him up in the middle rounds and stop him in 11 when Mike, still on his feet, doesn't want to fight anymore.

Holmes by TKO in 11


No doubt in my mind

 

I'd take Tyson stoppage

 

Holmes never fought anyone close to Tyson in his era, most of his name opponents were either past their best or novice. ****ey may have been the most dangerous but void of a right hand (Holmes poison) Shaver and Snipes caught him with right hands but Snipes too young and Shavers had limited stamina to follow up....Tyson was a different story ....Tyson always too much for Holmes

 

Tyson by KO. Tyson had been specifically trained for years with the intent of dethroning Holmes and had the ideal style and attributes to do it.

 

Who did Tyson fight that was comparable to a prime Holmes?

Tyson did a good job of cleaning out the dry brush of a historically weak heavyweight division.

 

A Prime Norton beats Holmes IMO

 

who did Holmes beat who was comparible to a prime tyson?

 

Tyson KO 8.

Mike was engulfed with this style of opponent from the ams to pros. A younger, prime Holmes would settle down more instead of the one flying around in '88. Tough SOB Holmes is but Mike would always have that stylistic advantage. Always.

 

Please... A prime tony tucker would give holmes the hell.trevor berbick was competitive vs holmes.holmes avoided pinklon Thomas,tyson never has problems with jabbers . tyson would destroy him