Does A Prime Marciano Beat The Joshua Of Today?

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Who the hell have Stiverne and Washington beat to give you so much faith in them against any real champion?

    So this guy Washington with his best win being over 41 year old Tim Austin who was 1-4 in his last 5 fights, is beating a Carnera!! This is laughable.

    Stiverne, who got a shot at the WBC heavyweight title out of beating a cruiserweight 13-10 willie Herring and who's only competitive match on paper (that he actually won, he lost the other) was with Chris "can't miss me" Arreola is going to beat Carnera??
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    When was Rocky a light heavy?
     
  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Point proven.:naughty2:
     
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  4. reznick

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    Alternative facts?
    Rocky fought people bigger than him often, and didn't use the same cautious approach as Wlad. Wilder is someone who does something similar.

    None of those facts are alternative. It seems that you've just been shown just your theory is wrong, and you are frustrated accepting it.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I believe they beat Carnera.That's my position and I believe they both ko Loughran , Stribling, and beat Uzcudun.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rocky fought bigger and they were journeymen .
     
  7. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    No there is no logic in Stivern or Washington beating Carnera or uzcudun. you are wiser than that, you have to be pulling my chain here...

    What stylistic advantages or career highlights of Washington could you possibly use to make any kind of case to beat the prime 1933 Primo Carnera?
     
  8. Seamus

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    I wrote "height, weight and RECORD".. Who did Marciano fight that rivaled Wlad's opponents in all three regards. You dyed in the wool Classicists love to ignore that last factor.
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    There are champions out there who have only beat journeymen. What else has Parker fought? What else had Joshua fought until he upped his game and finally learned to cut his teeth as a fighter against a 41 year old former champion?
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was answering Reznik saying Marciano fought bigger men, he did and they were 3rd raters .
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Parker isn't aSHVy.
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just opened a 2013 Montagne Saint Emillion, so you might have to destroy these Rockista's arguments alone, doesn't look like you'll have any trouble.
     
  13. mcvey

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    Ruiz ,Takam,and Dimitrenko aren't journeymen, they have 100 wins and only 4 losses between them!
     
  14. Seamus

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    I've got a few hours to go yet but might have to double the regular dose. Cheers!
     
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  15. reznick

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    Johnny Shkor.
    Wlad lost to two guys the same size, and lost to a guy with a similar record.

    How many 220lb guys did Rocky lose to?