Does A Prime Marciano Beat The Joshua Of Today?

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  1. reznick

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    No but Wlad lost in his first 7 years twice.
     
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  2. Seamus

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    But Wlad went 10 years undefeated fighting almost exclusively against top ranked fighters. Rocky didn't.
     
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  4. choklab

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    It's amazing how long a guy can stay on top when he has height, reach, experience, home advantage over all his challengers ...and the best training and wholesome vegetables and supplements money can buy.
     
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  5. Seamus

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    Maricano opponents... average weight 188 pounds, 30.8 wins, 10.9 losses
    Wlad opponents average weight 235 pounds, 24.4 wins, 2.9 losses

    The more you know.
     
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  6. Seamus

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    Charley Goldman was a h ell of a trainer.

    Vegetables were actually more wholesome in Rocky's day than they are today. And by all anecdotal evidence in the bio's and the appearance of Pasqualina, Rocky received high quality and quantity nutrition.
     
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  7. mcvey

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    And Rocky was out of the game at 32,anyone care to speculate how his resume would have looked had he continued till41years old ,into 1964 when he would have had to wade through Patterson,Folley,Johannson,Liston and Ali?
     
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  8. Mr.DagoWop

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    He would have beat Patterson, Folley, and Johannson but have been obliterated by Liston and stopped by Ali.
     
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  9. mcvey

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    When did Marciano give up home advantage? Rocky never fought outside the US . The only foreign challenger he fought had to fight in a 16 foot ring which Marciano's people stipulated!

    Marciano had the benefit of his manager being the matchmaker at MSG, the premier arena on the country!
    When was Marciano ever deprived of the best training or wholesome vegetables?You are absurd!
     
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  10. mcvey

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    He would have been obliterated by Liston and stopped by Ali in his prime, let alone when he was 41 years old!
     
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  11. Mr.DagoWop

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    Then why did you ask?
     
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  12. reznick

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    Did he lose to any of them?
     
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  13. reznick

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    When did Rockys team ever try to cover the ring with extra foam?

    When did Rocky ever excessively clinch after getting knocked down? Did Rocky ever have refs doing him favors the way Wlad did against Williamson and countless other opponents?
     
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  14. mcvey

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    Because I wanted the admission in writing
    Yes he did!
    When Moore knocked Marciano down referee Harry Kessler started a statuary standing count which was waived in title contests,and wiped Rockys gloves off before allowing the fight to continue .
    Against C*ckell Marciano butted him , hit him low, after the bell ,and when he was down ,yet was not penalized a single point by referee Freddie Brown.
    I'm surprised you don't know this!
     
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  15. mcvey

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    Because I wanted a written admission of it ,and not from you.Though yours was very welcome.
     
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