Does a victory gain value afterwards?

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  1. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Behave. Breazeale is terrible. Wallin was a strong favourite for a good reason.
     
  2. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Clenelo had fought like 40 straight cans, though. How do you think he was only 23 with 43 pro fights? And are we not seeing the best version of Clenelo like 8 years later?

    :lol:
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But he is a two time contender...the first Wallin ever beat.
     
  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Look at the opponents after Floyd and compare them to his opponents prior. You'll notice he only fought 3 top guys. Golovkin, Jacob's and Cotto. The G fights were questionable(I thought the decisions were good). Jacob's, which came to survive, not win and an under sized Cotto, which, if Cotto had more power, could have been trouble for Canelo. Canelo is the same fighter that just got bigger. Good fighter that went on to do good things after FM dominated him.
     
  5. RB1702

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    So? The heavyweight division is a bum division. Just because you get a couple title shots you deserve respect? Molina also had 2 title shots, Arreola had 3. If Wallin is any good which I don’t think he is he’ll be looking to fight and beat guys like Pulev and Rivas next.
     
  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Uh, Rivas's resume is thinner than Breazele, and Pulev is as shot as they come.
     
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  7. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Still the level of opponents Wallin should strive to beat.
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    Without doubt.

    Chances are now Canelo will be considered the best victory of Floyd's career.

    He was an undefeated unified LMW champ going into the fight.

    He worked his way through 3 more divisions fighting the best guys and became number 1 P4P.

    He's that good atm I've seen people saying his success can only be down to peds, that's an insane compliment to throw around.

    So yes, a victory can increase in value.
     
  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sure, but no better than Breazele at this point.
     
  10. Reg

    Reg Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most of the time yes. Mayweathers win over Canelo was further boosted by Canelos accomplishments afterward.
     
  11. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pulev and Rivas are both definitely better than Breazeale. That’s not even up for debate.
     
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  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again, they really aren't. Breazele's resume is better than Rivas'. Pulev was better, but is shot.

    Rivas, by the way, is one of the guys who has agreed to fight at bridger, so what does that tell you?
     
  14. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You don’t know boxing. Breazeale is god awful. Pulev and Rivas aren’t nearly as bad as him. Did you even watch Wallin Breazeale? He had no jab no defence no skills whatsoever, nothing.
     
  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It has been my experience that people who say "who don't know boxing," usually don't know boxing.

    Breazele has god awful skills, but is at least a natural heavyweight, and has managed a better record than Rivas. Rivas, by the way, is nearly blind in one eye. Since you think you know boxing, but don't know reading, I will repeat: Rivas is going to fight at bridger. He knows he is too small, and is almost out of the picture.

    Pulev was a good contender, whose bread and butter was a solid jab, but he always lacked movement and power, and is now totally shot.

    Peace out, boxing genius.