Does Abraham still have those screws/plates in his jaw from his fight with Miranda?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by evalistinho, May 20, 2008.


  1. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    I hope you are helping Ulli with the training for this fight!
    So make sure you tell Abraham to watch out for the sluggish slow back dude with no left hand.

    I can't wait until we hear Abraham once again singing:
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  2. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    We´ll see who is right and who is wrong.

    Pantera2000, Killtheking or Tom_Tocca and the famous Serenata :D

    5 Weeks countdown...
     
  3. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    At least, in this case, not Odo...
     
  4. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Quite possibly due to the opposition faced .
     
  5. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Pantera2K tells me that Miranda just wasn't right physically leading up to the fight with my boy Pavlik. We have PM'd off list quite a few times and I have no reason to believe he would lie to me about this, especially off list.
     
  6. Hermit

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    in Germany... ;)
     
  7. Pantera2000

    Pantera2000 9 lives Full Member

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    The fight should have never happened. Miranda kept his weight quite up to the weigh in so nobody ever knew how bad off he was. Not until well after the fight did the actual full truth ever come out. If I said how much he had to lose in 3 days nobody here would even beleive me. But it is his fault, and only his that he put himself in that position. If he would have trained hard and dieted correctly, maybe, maybe he would have been able to make weight and stay healthy. He lost a similar amount of weight in his 2nd trip to Germany, but he did it in 7 days.

    I know for this fight he is training as hard as ever and dieting with professional help. If he does what he is supposed to do, he should be able to make 166lbs and be at 100%.

    I would never sit here and say he would have beaten Pavlik at 100% that night. Pavlik surprised the **** out of a lot of people and came in with a great gameplan. Respect to Kelly. What I will say is he beat a Miranda that night that was far from where is should have been. Edison says the reason he went ahead with the fight eventhough he was ill and weak is that he thought he still had enough left to beat Pavlik without a problem. He wanted Jermain Taylor and he did not want to disappoint his team, HBO, and especially his fans. Instead, he screwed up his career. Hopefuly this fight with Abraham will win back the belief of many boxing fans who lost the Miranda hype after what Pavlik did to him. He has a lot to prove, and it all starts with June 21st.
     
  8. Monticello

    Monticello Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow that's bad. We'll see if Abraham chooses to box more in this fight and try to keep distance between them. I heard this fight is at 166. Does anybody think that he will have problem at that weight since I heard he enters the ring at a pretty high weight.