Does Adrien Broner possess the ability to be considered one of the G.O.A.T?

I'll engage anyone Bill, you know me

Come on Craney, let's have it; to make sweeping hypothesis on 'the greats' of boxing you have to have some point of reference.

Who are 'the greats' in your opinion? And what does Adrien Broner do better than Ernesto Marcel?

 

Hey, no one can be right or wrong when it comes to posting YOUR OPINION of who the greatest of all time are as long as you can justify your choices when pressed.

So what kinda' class is Broner potentially going to be mingling with?

 

You are a dick, a ****ing shithouse to borrow a phrase from PK, you say things to try and goad people or try and get noticed, its pathetic and when you do make genuine posts it's hard to take you seriously with all the bull**** you spout.

You crave attention, don't worry pal when you hit puberty you might grow out of it. :good

 

Its just as well you **** sucking bell-boy.

 

Most skilled during prime? Tyson at his best would rank highly amongst the best I've seen on film. As would Roy Jones Jr, Jung Koo Chang, Ernesto Marcel, Roberto Duran, Joe Louis, Jose Napoles.

Only one of those makes my 'top top 10 P4P greats' list and that's Duran.

Peak level of skill does not always amount of ATG achievements.

Adrian Broner is a big strong pad at the weights he's been fighting at, with an honest clout and some athletic gifts. But in terms of skill level, his undoubtedly impressive attributes have not been proven against sufficiently high calibre of differing stylists for me to rank him 'brilliant' yet.

 

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I'll always be stuck in a time warp. Longevity, activity and opposition will forever play a huge part in my personal ranking of great fighters. Todays era, todays mentality by and large, can't be anyhing but detrimental to the standing of the best from here and now when compared to the best of yesteryear.

 

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This.

You have to perform some miraculous stuff nowadays to amass the formidable achievements the greats of yesteryear actually had the chance to attain.

 

I think a major issue is the proliferation of titles.

Back in the day, you simply had to fight the top names to earn a crust.

These days, you can sign with Al Haymon and be paid $1m to fight a bum, or hide behind a title, and continue to do so as you move up the weights.

There are still fighters with undeniable talent, such as Andre Ward, and fighters with the old fashioned ''anyone, anywhere'' attitude, like Carl Froch, but hardly any have both.

Now, more than ever, I think there needs to be a reduction in the number of weight classes and titles.

Not that many of the divisions would become much better instantly, but there'd be much more in the way of competition, better journeymen, better trialhorses to sort the wheat from the chaff.

 

There's loads of old music. Listening to it for the first time is a new experience. When I get a rare Can or Kraftwerk live session it's much more stimulating than hearing a DJ mix together two poor club tracks.

I still listen to some new hip hop but not guitar bands there's no point.

And I keep up with modern boxing because it's a sport I follow, but as your post directed at Jasper makes a lot of sense for me I'm firmly in the camp of watching older fights because I get a higher level of skill and higher quality of matchups.

I lose the excitement of seeing the result play out live, and gain the enjoyment of seeing how history played out.

I collect rare footage so I'm biased but I'm the same with boxing as I am about music; only live once so I'll watch/listen to the best I can get my hands on.

I hear everyone's raving about this Jake Bug kid. Why listen to a British lad singing in an American accent when I could listen to Eddie Cochran?

You raise some very interesting points Sir and Bringing It All Back Home is my favourite Dylan album :good

 

No offence taken but my point stands. I love the sport. It is, and has been for many, many years, a huge part of my life. I frequent the small hall shows and the amatuer cards because boxing is my passion. I'm not looking nor expecting to see the next great fighter. I appreciate the art in all its forms. However, I stand by my stance concerning what I personally consider to be greatness and cannot realistically see many, if any, of the current crop reaching those standards. That doesn't mean I should turn away from a sport I am so absolutely passionate about though.

 

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