Does Andre Ward truly want to become great???

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Oxygene2, Nov 29, 2015.


  1. Oxygene2

    Oxygene2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Or is he going cold turkey?


    Has he just had terrible luck with management and fitness, or ... or is he suffering some psychological issues?
     
  2. Oxygene2

    Oxygene2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do you guys expect him to take on Kovalev soon? Is Ward ****ing away his prime?
     
  3. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Being the gym rat he is, he probably has like 5 more good years before he starts fading, that's enough time to cement a great legacy.

    Whether he wants to do that is a completely different matter.
     
  4. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    he has wasted 2 to 3 years of his career when he should have been fighting and his unwillingness to fight outside of california , never mind the rest of the world has severly dented his exposure, , he is very hard to beat but has a style that is not box office.
    his legacy will be good but not what it could and should be.
     
  5. Oxygene2

    Oxygene2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His extended breaks for whatever reasons (there have been several) maybe cause him to feel a "reset" mentality, in that he has to constantly start again and take "tune-up" fights.

    He's risking getting involved in a vicious cycle that threatens to impact what could be his legacy.
     
  6. MVC!

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    He is already H.O.Fer level
     
  7. Oxygene2

    Oxygene2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I appreciate that he's already achieved handsomely in his career, but he's been largely inactive for a long time now and keeps running into roadblocks that cause him to perhaps feel the need to reset.
     
  8. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not hall of famer level. His best wins are Kessler, Bika and Froch. Weight drained non HOF chad dawson doesn't count. Ran to catchweight/175 because of Degale :good
     
  9. MVC!

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    I don't want to blame him entirely for what has happened.

    He felt something was wrong and he wanted to resolve it before it got to an irreversible state.

    He definitely lost a few years of his prime, but so did Ali (Even though that was not up to choice). Ward is a proud guy, a man of principle.

    And he's been plagued by injuries. So let's not blame him for that.
     
  10. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You mean fake injuries?

    How is it that he is a "gym rat" and always in great condition but refuses to make 168 and always has an injury when a fight is lined up.

    Inactivity for being selfish I understand but he just can't fight like a real champion and take fights unless everything is on his own terms including ref/judges.
     
  11. MVC!

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    Surgery for his shoulder, and now a knee issue. So nope. All real. Legit 100%