Does andre wards shithousing tarnish his career?

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  1. Pacman Power

    Pacman Power New Member banned Full Member

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    If 90% of the world top fighters are wanting to fight in a particular country, chances are, there is at least a 90% chance that 90% of wrong judges decision will occure in the said country. Don't tell me you that ****ing thick, this is common sense.
     
  2. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Who da F***k is Bill Crosby anyway?

    Pill Cosby lololol classic
     
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  3. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm no true ward fan but I tell it like it is.
    What are these "dubious decisions" he's gotten ???
    You wrote it as it being multiple decisions, outside of the first Kovalev fight I can't recall any truly close fights where the decision could've been questioned..

    Just looking for a little clarity to your thread, or are you simply trolling again, not rhetorical
     
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  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Kessler and Froch were a bit faded when Ward fought them but I will answer
    Ottke beat WBA SMW champ Mitchell who had a win over Liles which was a greater win than either Kessler or Froch had when Ward fought them.
    Now look at the rest of the body of Ottkes SMW resume because I do agree in name Kessler is a better SMW than I feel any on Ottkes resume but then Kessler wasnt a factor when Ottke was champ.
    C Brewer the then IBF SMW champ for the title, beaten twice
    G Johnson who went on to become the Ring & IBF LHW champ
    S Branco who went on to become the WBA LHW champ
    A Mundine who went on to become the 2 time WBA SMW champ
    B Mitchell the then WBA SMW champ and 2 time WBA champ
    R Reid the former WBC SMW champ and still world class
    A Krajnc the former WBO MW champ (a smaller fighter)
    M Larsen world class who went on to become European champ
    R Markussen world class who went on to become European champ
    T Tate beaten twice
    D Starie
    J Butler

    Far greater overall though I admit you would have to know the division rather than a few names

    Ottke beat G Johnson when prime who went on to be the LHW champ, so that answers the Kovalev scenario also
     
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  5. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    There was also some otherforum aattached this this where people could air there opinions, did you blast cosby there?
    Also hatton fought away from home and wasnt a king corrupt deck stacker. I would blast him to the heavens too if he was.
    Like aj is starting to look like a deck stacker
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why would Joshua fight Whyte or Fury outside of the UK?

    In fact when he is the big name, why would he fight anyone outside the UK.
    I could agree with him travelling to face the champ Martin but other than that not sure what else you are getting at.
    Ward was in a competition where he didnt travel but the champs did. Different situation.

    Just imagine if Joshua was in a competition before he was champ with Wilder WBC champ, Martin WBA champ, Whyte, Bellew and Miller and Joshua had Martin travel to him, then Miller but couldnt agree to fight Whyte and has Wilder fight him in a final in the UK.
    See the difference? Bet you say you cant
     
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  7. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Golub,lomachenko,ggg,kovalev,pac man, etc thats just off the top of my head, all been screwed.
    Plenty of fighters go to the uk too a whole lot less get screwed. One of the main issues is certain parts of america mandate 3 American judges which is insane.
    Hooker flanagan is a good example, if flanagan did as well as hooker did he would have lost on the scorecards by 10 rounds
     
  8. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Trolling again? I barely post
     
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  9. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I’m not understanding you brother please elaborate. Golata didn’t KO Bowe therefore it wasn’t a KO win. Golota was losing the fight and had no plan no momentum and punched Bowe in the nads in a sign of desperation. I’m not sure where your going with this?
     
  10. Pimp C

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    Stop it. No one here in their right mind would argue that Ottke's resume is greater than Wards or that he's a better fighter than Ward.
     
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  11. Pacman Power

    Pacman Power New Member banned Full Member

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    Baily is Joe Calzaghe biggest fanboy. Anything threatening to Joe's legacy, which Ward is, you'll notice baily ready to play defense. Ever notice, he rarely posts Non Ward or Non Calzaghe thread.
     
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  12. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    I thought kovalev 2 was a legit stoppage. First fight kovalev won
     
  13. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    Ward is the American Calzaghe both champs reluctant to travel both fought good comp in the late stages of their careers
     
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  14. Pacman Power

    Pacman Power New Member banned Full Member

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    Ward fought good comp in the late stage of his career? Are you new to the sport or something?
     
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    If Sergey had retaliated then it was certain Weekes woulkd have DQ'd him while Ward acted like he was near to death
    Ward is a hypocritical,scumbag, A supposedly religious person who cruelly & callously sued his terminally ill manager Add to that he's coward & the dirtiest fighter I think Ive ever seen. He has NEVER LEGITIMATELY beaten Sergey Kovalev & he knows it
     
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