Does anybody consider winky wright to be very underrated?

He should take the Kessler fight....

 

I had it 7-5 for Winky in the Vargas fight. Not a robbery but as someone said, there is no way Vargas won 7 rounds.

 

Winky isn't fighting at anything above 160. So it's a moot point my friend.

 

ali had a 1-2 record at the end of his career.

we could go to any point in time and find blemishes stop nitpicking a statistic

 

For most of his career, Winky has been seriously underrated by the fans.

But not by other boxers, as evidenced by their reluctance to risk much against him.

The Tito fight brought him to the front of most fans' landscape. He completely dominated Tito, winning 11 or 12 rounds.

His best weight was 154, with 160 as the upper limit of where he should fight.

But Winky has gone from underrated to overrated, mostly on past glories.

He distinguished himself twice against Mosley, but Remember that Mosley's best weight was 135 and Winky is much bigger and stronger.

His draw with Taylor (and it was a draw) looks less stellar given that Taylor's claim to greatness stemmed from very close decisions against a faded BHop and has not shown top level form since. He was again competitive against Bernard, but a far from prime Bernard.

I wouldn't give him much chance against the Kessler who fought Calzaghe. Too big, too strong, too young.

I would like to see him face Forest, Spinks, Abraham or Pavlik, all to varying degrees, winnable possibilities for him. He would not fare well against serious competition at 168.

I would have liked to see him against Delahoya. This is a fight that would have brought him a lot of $$$ and again, was very winnable. In fact, this is the ONLY fight that Oscar could and should have made, but didn't.

I think history will rank Winky as a great fighter who was underrated in his day and not 'discovered' till late in his career.

 

I LOVE prime Winky, and post-Vargas 'I will sit in the pocket all night long in front of a big puncher and still destroy him!" Wright.

That being said he's getting OLD. When he fought Hopkins, Hopkin's looked like the younger man. Winky doesn't really have the use of his legs anymore - I suspect thats part of the reason why he started fighting more in his Trinidad or Taylor fight style as well, because he didn't have the stamina to be an on your toes type of boxer anymore. Winky is only a good fighter (if he is at all, the fight with Hopkins was so ugly its hard to tell much about either fighter from it!) because he is so incredibly skilled, his physical advantages seem to have left him. Hell he's been aggressive like a puncher recently, abandoning his jab (which was one of the best, if not THE best jab in boxing), but the guy has NO power. I think if he could still fight on his toes like he did earliler in his career he would be doing so.

Also I think the Vargas and Tayllor fights really hurt his legacy. Everyone is right, they could have 'gone either way', but in both cases Winky could have easily MADE the fights go HIS way if he had just fought a certain round he took it easy on. You'd think he would have learned from his mistake in the Vargas fight, or at the very least you'd think the entire boxing WORLD would have learned from Oscar's mistake only a couple of months before that fight.

I think Winky got a raw deal in not getting to fight Oscar though. I think most would agree that Winky would have easily beat him. Oscar's resume is so great that losing another fight, especially to someone who annihilated Mosley and Trinidad (two fighters he had issues with) wouldn't really hurt his ATG status. On the other hand, Winky not fighting Oscar at 154 kind of ruins his chances for that same 'ATG' status in my opinion. He only had two signature wins (even though he beat Mosley twice), whereas Oscar had plenty.

 

Also I disagree about Winky not being able to fight at 168-175. Wright may have spent most of his career at 154, but he was a big junior middleweight, and was probably closer to natural 175, he drained down to 154 because for so many years in fighting on the road chasing a title thats what he was known for!

 

Don't forget that the guys who fight at 168 and 175 walk around a good deal heavier than that. he would NOT have the pop to keep the bigger guys off him.

 

Winky is definetly underrated. Lets put it this way. If Winky was a big puncher he'd probably be the best P4P right now.

 

Some of them do, some of them don't. Its not just height and how many Krispy Kremes you eat between fights, its the size of your frame. Winky wouldn't be the tallest super middleweight or light heavyweight, but he could do it.

And I agree he wouldn't have the pop to keep them off hell he didn't even have the pop to keep off many 154 lb fighters, but he didn't need to keep them off as he blocked most of their punches anyway!

Winky may not have a strong punch, but he is a reasonably strong guy in my opinion.

Winky wouldn't be knocking guys out even if he drained down to 147!

He's always had trouble making 154 lbs though.

 

Nah, 160 is the highest he would be effective at. At 170, even though he came in shape, you could still see that he had excess stuff he could've EASILY burned off. He's simply not fit for anything bigger than 160. At 154, he was a monster. At 160, he can still compete with anyone IMO. And that's where he'll fight IMO.

 

What underated are you talking about? The mere fact that he is still way up there in the p4p list despite being picky and idle . . . reflects otherwise.

 

And at that point Ali did not belong at the top of any p4p llist jus tlike Winky doesn't now. It's not nitpicking. Oscar gets all types of **** for "never beating an elite fightger in his prime" Winky beat Tito when he was past it, shane above his best weight and quartery when he was way past it. He came short against Vargas and Talyor and cried about it enough to make other people buy into it.

 

winky was robbed in the vargas, taylor and hopkins fights. IMO. judges dont notice the little shits he does 2 win

 

Winky beat Taylor. Winky is not overrated.