Does anybody else think Canelo won the first against GGG and lost the second?

That's pretty much how I see it . I was more impressed with Canelo in the first fight by how he showcased footwork, set traps for GGG, controlled the range, landed the more eye catching counter-punches, etc.

This first fight was a distinct contrast of styles, whereas the 2nd fight was more of a toe-to-toe war. I had Canelo winning the first fight by several rounds, whereas in the rematch I had him winning 7 rounds to 5. I actually predicted this to an extent as I was expecting GGG to be in better shape for the rematch than he was for the first fight, better prepared for Canelo, and he was. I have to say I was very impressed with what GGG was able to do in the last 4 or 5 rounds of the rematch. But unlike the first fight, Canelo was having his way with GGG through the first 8 rounds and was really in complete control before GGG made his late comeback. In the first fight, Canelo started strong and finished strong, and in the middle rounds though his activity dropped the quality of his shots was still impressive. That's why I think there's a case to be made that Canelo won more rounds the first time around. Whereas in the rematch I thought GGG definitely won at least 3 or 4 rounds, whereas in the first fight I really felt like I was being generous to him to give him more than 3 or 4 rounds.

I thought also that the first half of the rematch was easier to score than the first half of the first fight. In the rematch, all 3 judges had identical scorecards mid-way through the fight, Canelo winning 4 rounds to 2. In the first fight the judges were all over the place indicating it was harder to score. In the 2nd half of the rematch though it became a lot harder to score, but Canelo had built a lead so to give GGG the fight you'd have to give him 5 out of the last 6 rounds. (4 out of the last 6 for a draw) GGG only really won 1 of the last 6 rounds clearly (round 10) the other 5 really could have gone either way. If you split those toss-up rounds evenly you end up with Canelo winning.

 

Had Golovkin clearly winning both fights although I thought the first fight was a lot closer.

I thought GGG put on a great display of boxing in their second fight.

 

He did late in the 2nd fight but he was getting outclassed for the first 7 or 8 rounds. For the first 2/3s of the fight, Canelo was the fighter who was working hard, loading up on big shots, landing big shots, etc. Canelo showed some minor fatigue in the final rounds of the rematch, but that had a lot to do with how hard he had been working all night up to that point whereas GGG was much more measured and selective in his hard power punches.

So Canelo built up a lead over the first 2/3s of the fight, that GGG couldn't overcome with his rally in the last 4 or 5 rounds.

 

Oh Great!

Good we got a real boxing Man around here.

 

No GGG was never outclassed at any point in either fight.

Also it is a complete lie to say he only came on in the second part of the fight when infact he dominated the first half imo.

 

You're kidding yourself. Canelo pretty much dominated the first half of the rematch. He was clearly winning the fight mid-way through the fight.

Also I have to question your boxing IQ if you thought GGG was "dominating" the first half of the rematch. I thought the first 6 rounds were pretty easy to score, GGG won rounds 1 and 4, while Canelo won rounds 2,3,5,&6. All 3 judges and many of the media scores released had those first 6 rounds identical. Those who thought GGG won had him winning 5 or 6 of the last 6 rounds, so for you to say GGG was dominating the first half of the rematch doesn't really match what happened and what most agree on.

 

No i think the 2nd round was closer than the 1st. Had Golovkin winning by 3 in the 1st and 2 in the 2nd.

 

So because I disagree you are questioning my boxing IQ?

Interesting considering you claimed Golovkin was being outclassed despite admitting you gave him rounds 1 and 4 out of the first 6.

More people had Golovkin winning both fights, Canelo was outlanded both fights, I know you will never accept these actual facts but that's on you.

 

I'm questioning how you saw GGG dominating the first half of the rematch. Most seem to agree that Canelo was winning at the mid-way point, and that GGG came on and rallied in the 2nd half of the fight.

Out of the two fights, the first half of the rematch seemed to be the easiest rounds to score. All judges and many media scores agreed on those first 6 rounds, that GGG won rounds 1 and 4, and Canelo won 2,3,5&6 and was up 4 rounds to 2 after 6 rounds. So if you see those rounds differently, then please explain why and specifically how you scored the first 6 rounds of the rematch and what rounds you gave GGG.

 

My card mirrored @CST80 if I'm correct bar round 12 iirc which I think I have to Canelo and he to Golovkin again I cannot remember.

The fight is over and another fight that left a foul taste in the sports mouth, if I was Golovkin I would scrap the WBC altogether.

The WBC never wanted Golovkin to beat Canelo and their actions prior, during and after has proven this. They're a pro Mexican/nationalistic bunch of crooks.

 

lol

 

First fight draw Canelo clearly won second fight

 

Some GG cheerleaders had him win by ko in both fights

 

I don't know how you can debate scoring without remembering how you scored it. You made a statement that GGG was domimating the first half of the rematch which goes against the consensus. (which you used against me saying more people had GGG winning both fights putting me in the minority having Canelo winning)

So along those same lines, you're definitely in the minority saying GGG dominated the first half of the rematch as most had Canelo winning 4 rounds to 2 after 6 rounds. It's a big stretch to have GGG winning the rematch at the mid-way point, let alone saying he dominated those rounds. Granted, I thought GGG pretty clearly won rounds 1 and 4 so it wasn't a total Canelo domination either, it's just that it became clear that GGG was uncomfortable with Canelo's relentless attack and had to back away at times which is very uncharacteristic of GGG.

Like I said, I do agree with those who said Canelo won the first fight clearer than he won the 2nd fight (or that Canelo won more rounds in the first fight than in the second if you had him losing). I do think there's an argument that Canelo was more impressive, efficient and effective in the first fight. He certainly showcased more of his all around skills whereas in the rematch he focused on staying in the pocket and generating as much power as possible and landing as many big power shots as possible. Both game plans have their advantages and both were effective in their own way, but going into the first fight most didn't rate Canelo's footwork and Canelo surprised a lot with how fleet footed he was. But if you like coming forward in your face fighting, toe-to-toe wars and a guy trying to land bombs, which is what most fans seem to crave, then naturally you would be more impressed with what Canelo did in the rematch.