Does anyone actually believe that Arum does not pay off judges?

I like to put my head in the sand on this one and hope its not true

I cant pretend to know anything about the behind the scenes going ons

Is it possible well sure, or maybe its not pay offs in a sense but incentives, judge in favor of our guy and the next big vegas event will be yours to judge, **** us now and you dont get the next card

i mean these judges know that the promoters carry the power and thats who they answer to

 

Agreed and I would second shaunster101's feelings on corruption existing in all areas of culture and establishment. I'm simply citing the the fundamental cause which is competition in itself.

 

Ydksab

 

Of course. Just like Don King in the 90s. Chavez/Whitaker, Delahoya/Trinidad, Holyfield/Lewis 1

Now that Arum is top of the top he has learned well and does it in a lot of his fights with his up and comers/bigger stars.

 

What dose he have to gain in Bradley Beating Pacquiao? Pacquiao is an international star, who generates millions if not billions of dollars. Bradley is a very good boxer, but lacks the star power and money making abillites of Pacquiao.

 

Who was the promoter for DLH vs Sturm?? Oscar did not win that fight, i dont remember who was promoter for that fight.

 

I don't know how they do it. Like some posters are saying, surely somebody would have spilled the beans by now if there were paper bags full of cash flying around.

But, so many crazy bad decisions?... almost always favoring the house fighter? What is it, just a strange coincidence? I'm not a UFC fan, but you hardly ever hear about wildly contraversial decisions on their cards. In boxing, it's a weekly occurance.


Maybe it's just an unspoken rule of the buisness... You want to work on Top-Rank cards, then you tow the line... Every posible benefit of the doubt should be given to the house fighter... or you won't be hired again.

 

I notice after calling me a gullible idiot iceman has gone rather silent in this thread.

 

Arum would still have more intrest in resigning Pacquiao, who's a proven moneymaker. Than going with the unknown (to the general public) Bradley Even if he is in decline or not as good as he's soposed to be. Because he's a star, he's a money maker. This is not nesscarly a reflection on his boxing ability. A win means he can go back to avoiding tough fights. They wern't expecting Bradley to be a tough fight. He was soposed to be another Margarito or Clottey. At best the light hitting 140 champion was soposed to be something of the declining Mosley who he beat. A win means the toughest fight he has next is Brandon Rios who has a lot of talent, but lacks the big time experance. That's the best case matchup. I wouldn't be surprised if they put Jessie Vargas in with him. No disrepect bend towards Brandon Rois and Jessie Vargas. Both are talanted boxers, but neither should be considered ready for the biggest time as of 12-8-2012.

Being that a Pacquiao was the favroite going in, being that Bradley wasn't expected to bring any of his little punching power up with him. There would be no need to bribe anyone.

 

You ARE kidding, right?


Wow ....

 

It doesn't have to be crooked or flat out pay-out.

Promoters are the greatest hosts in the world.

Being on a 5-star hotel for the entire stay, free airfare and meal, excluding aloowances, and a chance to travel again with that benefits.

Of course some judges would lean on the house fighter.

 

very good bullet points, most of which are however wrong or dont pertain to boxing

yes, everyone knows arum and the IBF were investigated for accepting bribes to get a fighter rated once upon a time. And in that giant federal **** storm of an investigation, not 1 time was he accused of bribing a judge. We are talking JUDGES who determine the outcome of a fight, not just to get a guy ranked so he is allowed to fight. But you will assume since he did that he paid off judges too right? wheres 1 name drop or piece of evidence to support any promoter even offering a bribe much less completing multiple deals placing money in their hands..... i fail to see your logic. not one ounce of proof.

 

1: The bookies made a killing. You can be sure that Arum gets a nice taste.

2: If the fight had been closer, as Arum obviously expected, there would have been HUGE money in the rematch.

3: After Bradley would have won the also-fixed rematch, he could then be promoted as the great Pac-Killer, with several huge PPV fights to come.

Kind of obvious, no?

 

i don't think anybody is going to pay off a judge when your fighter is a heavy favorite, that would be stupid.

when you look for fights where the judges may have been bribed, look for fights where the underdog with a lot of upside wins even though he should easily have lost.

using some of pac's fight as proof is beyond ridiculous.