Does anyone actually think Ruiz is the best HW in the world?

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  1. Brujo

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    Wilder is the man to beat in the heavyweight division. He may not be the most skilled boxer, but he's absolutely the most dangerous fighter in the world and that's beyond question.
     
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  2. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think he can beat Wilder but not Fury. Hes clearly top 3. Having all or the majority of the belts makes one the champion but not necessarily the best fighter in the division. Nobody ever called Carlos Baldomir the best welterweight after he beat Judah.
     
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  3. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You reduce the top contenders to one word epithets. I could add that Ruiz is fat. So what. Those guys would still all probably beat Ruiz. Parker already did, who was in turn beat by your "overrated" Whyte. Parker was the only other top 25 HW Ruiz has faced. But he's looked fairly pedestrian against some sub top 25 he's like tor hammer and sergie liakovich.
     
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  4. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wouldnt argue any of what you said with the exception of Ruiz losing to Parker. I thought that was some serious home cooking on the scorecards. Other than that I have no problem with you pov. Time will tell
     
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  5. The Long Count

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    Fury is the best he already beat wilder and Wlad and Joshua has lost.

    Bring on Fury vs Ruiz!!!!
     
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  6. Hi-Tek-Lomo

    Hi-Tek-Lomo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's HW boxing--anything can happen.
     
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  7. SmackDaBum

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    Dimitrenko is underrated. Ruiz/Parker was more of a draw if anything. Parker had the wrong gameplan or heart against AJ, who in my book won confortably on points. Same goes with Wlad "I didnt let my hands go" Klitschko.
     
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  8. thesmokingm

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    I watched the Fox coverage of the Parker fight and the commentary was gushing all over Parker. The crowd too, every time Parker threw anything the crowd oohed and awed, fricken ridiculous. The reality is that Ruiz forced Parker to retreat most of the fight.
     
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  9. kirk

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    Its clear to me you simply underrate Ruiz.

    There is no way that current Ortiz is beating Ruiz. And I see no reason whatsoever to have AJ as a favorite in the rematch.

    Ruiz is a serious threat to everyone, with imo the only clear favorite being Fury.
     
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  10. Rockradar

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    My current top 3...
    1. Fury
    2. Wilder (WBC champ)
    3. Ruiz (WBA, WBO, IBF champ)
     
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  11. RingKing75

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    This. So this. That was the fight in a nutshell.
     
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  12. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This. Note that all major highlights (slow mos) of that fight is of Parker catching Ruiz.
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  13. Serge

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    Fury
    Ruiz
    AJ
    Duck Squad
     
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  14. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    A min of highlights isnt 12 rounds of a fight. I saw a lot of Parkers punches missing, hitting glove and shoulders even in those highlights. I like Parker and some people had the fight for him and thats cool with me but I had Ruiz winning 7-5 maybe 8-4 its been a while so I don't remember my exact score.
     
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  15. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was a close fight. I remember people crying for a rematch. Me personally, I did not want Parker to fight Ruiz again ever.
     
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