Does anyone disagree with this video LOMA vs RIGO

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  1. Salty Dog

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    Your argument is ****, so you insult me instead. This is how Trump ended up as President. Carry on.
     
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  2. gmurphy

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    this is a trend i see in boxers these days they get to world level ,win a world title, then they suddenly expect the mayweather money to role in and they can pick and choose whoever they want to fight

    it doesn't work like that, certain factors such as , how exciting you are as a fighter, national background, your celebrity outside of the ring all play a factor in making you a star, and then you tie in fighting regularly and continued success

    thats how you make big money, but if you are a cuban and box the like of agbeko and francisco in what are meant to be showcase fights in such a boring manner that you are getting booed, you aren't going to improve your standing in the sport. In both these fights rigo could have put he's foot on the gas and made things interesting, instead he was hyper defensive and low activity in showcase fights.

    lomachenko has the skills but he can also be the aggressor, he is already a 2 weight world champion and going for a 3rd in under 10 fights, he is taken risks big fights and going for it. Arum is probably taken all these factors into account and thinking i can go work with this, id say arum is probably interested in pacman vs loma. He is thinking he could pull a de la hoya vs mayweather here.

    Where we take the established superstar and have him lose to the spectacular multiple weight division fighter, the de la hoya fight was the making for money mayweather in terms of he's popularity.

    And this guys point about lomachenko not knowing english is asinine and xenophobic, loma probably know 2 or 3 languages already and he's english is improving, same with ggg and kovalev. tbh even if lomachenkos english was perfect he won't be a trashtalker anyway, he is a very professional fighter and isn't the type to trash others
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Not in the least, Arum is a business man, he tried to make Rigo into a star and he literally bored every out of the building with his follow up match against Agbeko and then said he had no plans to make his style more fan friendly or appealing, he brought this on himself. No one wants to pay to be bored, they won't pay to see boring movies, boring bands, boring records, so why the hell would they pay an extraordinary amount to see a boring fighter? Boxing is just as much the entertainment and money making business as it s a sport, if a guy isn't entertaining, has no desire o entertaining and can't make money....... then businessmen don't want anything to do with you.
     
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  4. ThatsRight11

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    loma walters was just as boring to the casuals, and even kellerman said it, loma doesn't have a fanbase either, has absolutely nothing to do with that, after that fight rigo was basically banned from hbo, u gotta ask if it's racism he has a strong case, so many double standards from the boxing fans today
     
  5. DoubleJab666

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    It's his MO.... don't take it personally, he has no social skills.
     
  6. ThatsRight11

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    my argument? u want rigo to move to 130 to fight loma? u fanboys are literally killing the sport off, sweet jesus
     
  7. ThatsRight11

    ThatsRight11 Active Member Full Member

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    ur literally stalking me on every thread ever since that joshua thread, haven't u been proved wrong enough lol, your the same guy who said roman gonzalez has the best footwork in modern boxing, SWEET JESUS u casuals are embarrassing on here
     
  8. gmurphy

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    i think something else you also have to factor in in what happened to rigo is he's management team.

    Gary Hyde said he started to become a nightmare to work with the more certain members of caribe promotions got in he's ear and that he wouldn't take good fights he was offering him. they eventually split and rigo was in the wilderness for ages, it wasn't just arum and hbo, rigo was causing a lot of problems for himself in he's own camp
     
  9. RingKing75

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    No. Rigo had a better fight with Donaire meaning it was a closer fight while Loma absolutely dominated a guy who smoked Donaire who is an elite level fighter. Loma made it look easy while it lasted and was on his way to a possible ko until he made Walters quit. Rigo is bitter and playing the race card. You want the spotlight then stop running and start fighting.
     
  10. CST80

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    Not in my opinion, Loma comes forward and dismantles his opponents en route to an eventual stoppage, he tries to be exciting, its not his fault that his opponent is impotent and doesn't usually have the tools to compete and ends up looking thoroughly average, he gives being entertaining the good old college try, whereas Rigo doesn't give a **** what the fans think or want to see.

    You can't build your career out of basically telling fans to **** off, I don't want to entertain you and then cry racism when no one wants to see you.:lol:
     
  11. ThatsRight11

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    rigo won 11-1 vs donaire! is that your definition of close? you casuals are insane,
    walters is too big for donaire hence the ko, he'll never be as good as donaire or achieve what he did, if walters moved up another three weights and fought julio diaz and got koed would u call diaz better than him? no you wouldn't

    rigo didn't seem to run much when he broke his last opponents jaw did he, what about the other 10 kos?
     
  12. gmurphy

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    apply my formula of popularity to say Conor McGregor

    exciting to watch - McGregor is extremely exciting to watch, even though i don't like mma, i do find him exciting as he is a hell of a striker

    National Background - Irish, this country is McGregor nuts, if he they had a ufc event in dublin conor would sell 90,000 seats in croke park on he's own in hours. He is also huge in britian now, and you have people of irish descent in america loving him too

    celebrity outside the ring- famous for he's trash talk ,he is never out of the media or social media, on tv in ireland every week ,never out of the papers

    regular fights - 4 fights in 11 months, i don't think any top level boxer or mma fighter can match that

    continued success - knocking out a ufc legend in 13 seconds, having two wars with a guy he jumped two weights to fight and now moving up in weight and beating the champion and becoming the first guy to hold 2 belts at the one time, there is that feeling he can literally do anything he wants.

    he ticks all the boxes when it comes to being a big money maker, and thats the reason why he is the biggest earner in combat sports
     
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  13. ThatsRight11

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    just telling you what kellerman said, and alot of fans were criticizing loma for not going for the ko contrary to what u said, as far as boring i've seen people says he's more boring than rigo, if u deny there's an agenda going on ur delusional, u beat p4p 3 fighter and get banned from hbo and get the boot from arum, wake up
     
  14. Salty Dog

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    Like I said.

    But ok, I'll favor you with a response. Yeah. Let Rigo move up if he's all that. It's what every fighter that wants to be great does; if you can't find somebody good enough to challenge you (or is willing to) you move the **** up. Eventually you will find somebody that thinks their size advantage will be sufficient to overcome your skill and then you'll get a fight and likely it'll be popular and everybody will root for you, which is what you were crying about in the first place, no?
     
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  15. gmurphy

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    he was fighting jazza dickens ffs lmfao the 6th best super bantem in england
     
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