Does anyone else think that Wilder is a terrible matchup for Usyk?

Usyk vs Wilder looks like a repeat of Calzaghe vs Lacy. The difference is Usyk needs to neutralize Wilder's right hand, whereas Calzaghe took away Lacy's left hook.

 

No point on overexaggerating of Fury being knocked down several times by average opponents - they didn't win anyway. Worth mentioning he survived several of Wilder's terrific punch. In a way, Fury was unexperienced, but I won't excuse him with that. But makes me think on something else: If Joshua (and Kuzmin) managed to KO Joyce in 1 round as amateurs, does this mean AJ will smash Joyce now as well?

Usyk, on the other hand, did fight good amount of classy opponents, but few of them were KO artists, we measure that by the KO ratio and to be rated as such, a fighter must have like at least 70-75%, (while the hardest ones are above 80). Having between 60-70% means the fighter is no joke power, but hardly a dangerous puncher. Noting all that, I don't intend to take anything from Usyk, nor I can or want to, but saying he fought so many hard punchers isn't very true. He was hurt by a heavyweight puncher, right? Whatever, he won. Same did Fury. Well, Wilder hits harder than Joshua, so if we ever see Usyk vs. Wilder, he better stay away from the latter's bomb.

Being down or not is irrelevant at one point: Vitali's *ss never touched the canvas, he has two losses. Rocky has been in a knockdown, but went undefeated. Wrote it before: a knockdown is nothing more than what it is, you can use it to say a fighter is not that strong, but see it the other way: despite being knocked down several times, if a fighter is always the winner means he's however hard to take out.

 

Wilder is a tough matchup for everyone at the heavyweight division

 

Well we’ve seen wilder land bombs on much lesser opposition and take almost the full fight to put them away. I’m not saying what you describe can’t happen but I think it’s unlikely. Uysk has Never been down ever as far as i know from a head shot and has been hit by some fighters that might not have wilders raw power but definitely had power and way better technique and placement. Duhapas lasted until 11. Molina was dropped 2 times early and lasted until what round 9? First Stivern fight went the full 12 and he was dehydrated as hell.
The whole gotta land just one to end the fight is over blown. Just one can definitely swing things his way a bit but he needs to follow up. I don’t see that happening to Uysk. Again not saying it’s impossible, just improbable IMO.
His experience, chin , and ring smarts should see him survive if he gets buzzed.

 

The examples you brought up are fights that took place eight years ago.

Wilder broke his right hand when he floored Stiverne in their first fight so he had to box his way to a decision. He didn't have surgery to repair it that time. Instead, he let it heal on its own and then fought Molina and Duhaupas in the months following.

Wilder doesn't have a broken hand now. And I don't think any fights that took place eight years ago will have a bearing on what happens in any fights this year.

If they fight, Wilder will be the hardest puncher Usyk will have ever faced by far. If Usyk doesn't get stopped, he'll win.

But Wilder has knocked out everyone he's faced except Fury, and he had him down four times.

So Wilder will hit him. And Wilder won't be giving up height and 40 pounds in weight to Usyk. He'll be punching down at a southpaw who likes to come forward.

If Usyk can take it, he'll win.

If he can't, he'll lose. In an instant.

 

Thank you for the context on the broken hand I had forgotten about it and was unaware he didn’t get it addressed for so long. I need to rewatch these fights now.

As you say this was 8 years ago and his hand is better. However I am still doubtful he can pull it off. He is very unorthodox and deceptively quick I think don’t get me wrong. I don’t see Uysk getting starched by a single punch and if he does get tagged I believe he can weather the storm. Not gonna lie though I’ll be on the edge of my seat the entire fight. Anything can happen so I don’t rule out your take… I just think the more likely event is a Uysk victory

 

I actually believe Wilder could be Usyk. Usyk isn't as quick as he was and has to last 12 rounds because. Usyk is not KOing wilder, and Wilder only has to land once.

Usyk will stay right in Wilder's line of sight. I think Usyk could win, but I hope if Usyk takes the fight he doesn;t go to USA to get robbed.

 

“Szpilka schooled Wilder for 8 rounds”

Compubox: Wilder 75-63

Eyeonthering: Wilder 12-5-4

Boxrec: Wilder 5-3

Judges: Wilder 6-2

And Szpilka was sparked and carried out on a stretcher for his trouble, 7 years ago.

Wilder always had A-side, home and champion advantage and his team were aware of this, it has an effect on strategy. Wilder wouldn't bother trying to consistently keep his nose in front of Usyk on the cards as he did against Szpilka or Ortiz the 1st time and he wouldn't expect Usyk to gas as he did Ortiz the 2nd time. Wilder would be looking for the KO and KD’s from the opening bell, for 36 minutes or less. And he’d have a better chance of getting them than Joshua (who landed 247 punches on Usyk over 24 rounds according to Compubox) due to his greater length, speed, agility, right hand KO power, heart, confidence, killer instinct, unconventionality, ease of underestimation and southpaw experience. Wilder’s trainer Scott has also studied Usyk, sparred him extensively and has 24 rounds from Usyk’s fights with 6’6 power puncher Joshua that he can review.

Usyk didn't stop Glowacki, Hunter, Briedis, Gassiev, Chisora or Joshua x2, with only one KD scored, so Usyk stopping Wilder is unlikely and his primary gameplan would very likely be to pointfight for 36 minutes. As Fury can attest this carries clear risks against Wilder, especially in America.

All that being said, Usyk is confident in this matchup; he stated that he regarded Wilder as being the easiest of the “big three” even prior to Fury-Wilder 2.

 

Think that this is a horrible fighy for both of them. 1 punch and Usyk is koed and for Wilder there is the tricky aspect of catching Usyk. I would F pay money to see it though.

 

Would be a fast paced exciting fight especially over either AJ or Fury & something to fill in between since the big one hasn't been signed.

 

We’ll no ****, if Usyk were fighting against those guys he’d have more problems too…

 

I think Usyk would be extremely difficult for Wilder, but I’m here for it if it happens.

 

Why? Wilder has failed to put a lot of fighters to sleep despite landing.

 

Another loss for Wilder, he needs to ride off into the sunset, he has already had his chances.

 

Wilder has also had to beat down plenty of B and C level guys before being able to take them out. And he is 36 now.