Does anyone find Tyson vs. Holyfield I very overrated?

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Go back and look at the Lewis-Ruddock fight.

    Razor kept dipping to his right and throwing a jab to the body. Lennox picked up on this and near the end of the round was waiting when Ruddock tried it again and he threw a vicious straight right, all his weight behind it —because he was waiting for the opportunity next time Razor threw the jab to the body because his head went to the same position each time — at a downward angle that did all the damage needed.

    Not sure Razor even saw the punch, which is always the most effective punch when you don’t see it coming.

    That is entirely different from the way Tyson had to approach him. That’s why I don’t see ‘80s Tyson taking Ruddock out easily because that scenario never presents itself. Punching power is the last thing to go and whatever you think of Tyson at the point in his career where he fought the Ruddock fights, he wasn’t punching harder in the ‘80s than he was then.
     
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  2. Hannibal Barca

    Hannibal Barca Active Member Full Member

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    The night of the fight I was working the graveyard shift in Hartford Connecticut. I was at a gas station and I started hearing gunshots going off all over the city, and dozens of cars beeping their horns. I asked a guy what was going on, and that's how I found out Holyfield had knocked out Tyson.
     
  3. Marcus S.

    Marcus S. Member Full Member

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    Do y'all think that it won The Ring FOTY because of how massively anticipated the fight was and how monumental Holy's upset win over Tyson instead of the quality of the fight itself? I don't know about y'all, but for me, the quality of a fight should reign supreme over how much hype a fight has or the shock of the winner.
     
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  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Actually Mike tried to quit a few rounds before the end came. He ran into Holyfield intentionally with his head in an obvious way then Tyson ask for the ring doctor. The fighter requesting not a good look.
    In just a pure boxing sense it was a bit one sided. Tyson won the first part of round 1 then didn't win a round until maybe the 5th or 6th he had a good round. Otherwise it was getting worse for him each round the fight progressed.

    On a side note Bobby Czyz commentary is so bad its comical. Usually Czyz was a sharp insightful analyst but on this night he had $25 large bet on Tyson. He was begging for a draw.
     
  5. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruddock always was off balance when he jabbed and fell in. then, brought his hand back low. big window there. Early Tyson had the foot speed to step in and fire a right over it. but it is a disciplined move and one to prepare for in sparring before the bout and those days were in the rear view mirror by the time of their bout. but most folks are not watching tyson's footwork and did not believe there was any deterioration on Tyson.

    there is a window whenever Ruddock punched. Lennox sure capitalized and that is all pre fight preparations for an opponent.
     
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  6. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This explains a lot, thank you my friend.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    The "event" is part of what makes a fight great. As an event it was big. Leonard - Hearns and Hearns - Hagler are two good examples of huge events. The build up, the anticipation, where exactly both stand at the time rep wise etc.
     
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