Does anyone find Tyson vs. Holyfield I very overrated?

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  1. Wvboxer

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    I have a poster for a proposed Tyson Vs Holyfield fight that was to have taken place before Mike went to prison. This matchup was one that had been looked forward to for years. I remember after Holyfield beat Qawi the 2nd time, the talk was about how he’d do against Tyson. I remember some ABC preflight special that aired before Tyson vs Spinks. Holyfield was interviewed and described as being a big threat on the horizon. Once Holyfield turned heavyweight, every fight was analyzed with regards to how he’d do against Tyson. “Oh Alex Stewart hit him too much. Tyson would kill him.” I used to joke that I have to live long enough to see Tyson vs Holyfield! Lol! It was a big deal.

    Going into the first match , I remember concern that Holyfield might have a heart attack or something. Tyson appeared to be back to his 80’s peak. For me, I hadn’t seen many of Tyson’s 90’s fights. I wasn’t in a position to get pay per view back then. As far as I knew, Tyson had regained his sharpness. This fight was going to be a mismatch. That’s why I think Tyson vs Holyfield was fight of the year. No way Tyson was going to lose that fight. It’s a dramatic fight but not an all time great one.

    If they’d met in their primes, I can’t see Tyson blasting Holyfield out but I think he would’ve had the willingness to grind through a competitive bout and get a decision. His mental makeup was better & he fought so much he was always pretty sharp. I wonder how 80’s Tyson would’ve handled an opponent that came to fight like Evander. I think it’s a close fight that either guy could’ve won.
     
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  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Smith hugged and Tyson was content to let him.

    Nobody has a style quite like Ruddock with the lead left half-uppercut being his basic punch. But Green, Bonecrusher and even Ribalta (as well as a guy named Buster) are all big stature guys who hung in there to some degree or other with Tyson (while Carl Williams, who has a great jab but is more frail, did not).

    There’s absolutely no basis for saying the 1980s version of Tyson would have KO’d Ruddock in the first round. The man gave him a pretty good tussle twice. He damned sure wasn’t scared or intimidated in any way. He took hellacious shots. There’s no reason to think he would have been blown out.
     
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    Saintpat Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Go back and look at the Lewis-Ruddock fight.

    Razor kept dipping to his right and throwing a jab to the body. Lennox picked up on this and near the end of the round was waiting when Ruddock tried it again and he threw a vicious straight right, all his weight behind it —because he was waiting for the opportunity next time Razor threw the jab to the body because his head went to the same position each time — at a downward angle that did all the damage needed.

    Not sure Razor even saw the punch, which is always the most effective punch when you don’t see it coming.

    That is entirely different from the way Tyson had to approach him. That’s why I don’t see ‘80s Tyson taking Ruddock out easily because that scenario never presents itself. Punching power is the last thing to go and whatever you think of Tyson at the point in his career where he fought the Ruddock fights, he wasn’t punching harder in the ‘80s than he was then.
     
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  4. Hannibal Barca

    Hannibal Barca Active Member Full Member

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    The night of the fight I was working the graveyard shift in Hartford Connecticut. I was at a gas station and I started hearing gunshots going off all over the city, and dozens of cars beeping their horns. I asked a guy what was going on, and that's how I found out Holyfield had knocked out Tyson.