Does anyone know any private film collectors?

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  1. mmorrison1132

    mmorrison1132 Member Full Member

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    :rofl I didn't even mention baseball.

    NBA TV has Hardwood Classics. Sky Sports broadcasts alot of classic Football matches.
     
  2. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No I was talking primarily of Green.
     
  3. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And how many classic NBA games have you watched on NBA TV or ESPN that predate the 1970s (which would barely be considered classics in the boxing world)? How many can you readily acquire or watch ANYWHERE? Now compare that to the number of classic boxing matches which numbers in the 100s or 1000s and it doesnt even come close. I would argue that boxing fans are far more spoiled in regards to what they can actually watch as opposed to being forced to read about than any sport in the world, maybe all other sports combined.

    Can you watch the 1927 world series in its entirety? No. But you can watch the long count fight in its entirety. Can you see any substantial gameplay footage of Babe Ruth or Ty Cobb in their primes? No. But you can watch nearly two hours of Joe Gans in a single fight in his prime and literally hours of footage of Georges Carpentier or Jack Dempsey in theirs. There is what, maybe five seconds of footage of Honus Wagner but we have most of Bob Fitzsimmons winning the HW title. I could make these comparisons all day long and all of the footage referenced above is easily accessible and yet its not enough, some would rather people like myself and others, dubbed "hoarders" should go out, work hard to find this stuff, then pay our own hard earned money to buy it, and then post it on youtube for free... Do you think NBA TV posts their footage for free? No, they have $$$ sponsors who subsidize their investment and make it profitable for them to do so otherwise you wouldnt see THAT footage either. The difference is they have the ability to make a substantial return on their investment and people like me dont. Someday some of these children on here who dont know better will get a very rude awakening and realize that nothing in life is free those that have already learned that lesson are simply lazy asses who cant be bothered to work hard to get what they want whether its fight films or anything else.

    So while you are rolling on the floor laughing at my baseball analogy keep in mind that you can catch about 30 seconds of the 1950 NBA finals on hardwood classics and the entire fight of Ezzard Charles defending his title against Joe Louis. Yeah... I think boxing fans have it pretty damn good regardless of some of the complainers.
     
  4. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was accused of things so he explained why it is so.
    What is your problem with it?
    It is about keeping promises, rights and credits.
    If it was you instead of him what would you do? break promises? ignore accusations?
     
  5. JayTesla

    JayTesla Member Full Member

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    Why are you taking this tone with me? How am I a spolied kid because I want some help finding Freddie Little footage? I have a job like everybody else.
     
  6. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not to get too far off topic, but regarding these rare fight films does Anyone know of someone (a private collector) who may have a fight the public has never seen? Just wondering, something like a Harry Wills match or Greb or a young Sugar ray? Just inquiring to see if it exists.
     
  7. Green Man

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    Just **** off and die already you miserable ***** and take your precious collection to the grave with with your nerdy ass, it will be as missed as you will be around here.:deal:yep:lol: Nobody missed when you were banned here the first time(this is your second or third account) and nobody will miss you if you go sleep with the worms.:lol:
     
  8. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What about fights of Mark Wills, Marion Wilson, Orlin Norris?

    I Just noticed that Tarver's fights vs Harding and R Johnson are up :happy

    Also good to have McCall's, Tucker and Douglas fights against each other online after all the time.
     
  9. Mendoza

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    This is the problem with collectors. They all have special clauses not to trade, but not all of them keep their word.

    As such they are a suspicious lot when it comes to trades, unless they personally know who they are trading with.

    This essentially means you need to know a collector or two to get something rare, offer a good amount of $, and keep your mouth shut.
     
  10. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was going to say Simbros but it looks like the site has been taken down. Major bummer.
     
  11. JayTesla

    JayTesla Member Full Member

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    Oh. My bad lol. :D
     
  12. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have no dog in this fight (or these fights, to be more accurate), but I do have a hypothetical for Mr. Klompton:

    Let's say you somehow come across the Holy Grail of fight films and discover (and come to possess) a prime Harry Greb fight fight or two.

    You gain it through whatever legal means with no preconditions of what you choose to do with it. Let's say for argument's sake that you obtain it cheaply, or relatively so, at a price that makes no major negative impact on your day to day lifestyle. Perhaps you got it for $50 at a garage sale and determine it is, indeed, the real deal.

    What would you do with a find of such major historical importance?

    Would you share it freely -- as in distributed on youtube or some other available-to-anyone platform?

    Would you share it only privately, to members of "the club" of people you like and trust, fellow collectors or whatnot, and become one of those who puts a "never share it with anyone" precondition on it?

    Would you seek a high-dollar buyer to line your coffers with gold?

    Call me curious. I'm interested in your thinking on such matters.
     
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  13. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    forgive them fella.
    i understand what you're saying...and its not right for anyone to disagree....in fact its a form of greed expecting you to just give out what you have.
     
  14. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    which does exist....theres a 2 minute highlight from espn classic on youtube....and norkus son who I am in correspondence a bit with was surprised the youtube full fight didnt have sound.
     
  15. doug.ie

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    his son retired as a fire chief in 2005...so you can maybe guess an age from that.
    myself and her indoors went to ny in 2010 and went to visit a firehouse as they call it..to swap shirts from a fireman mate of mine in wales...we went to battalion 54 / 9 on 44th and 8th I think....anyway..only recently did norkus son tell me that was the very place he worked till 2005...small world...and loads of them fire stations in manhattan