Does anyone put Canelo over Barrera, Morales & Marquez...?

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    You can't hang with the big boys eh?
     
  2. BCS8

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    Do you mistake verbosity for quality? :lol:
     
  3. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Best Wins

    Barrera

    1) Morales x2 (*1st & 3rd) –
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    2) Naz
    3) McKinney
    4) Juarez
    5) Tapia

    Morales

    1) Pacquiao I –
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    2) Barrera (*2nd) –
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    3) Chavez
    4) Jones
    5) Chi

    Marquez

    1) Pacquiao IV
    2) Barrera –
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    3) Casamayor
    4) Diaz
    5) Gainer

    Canelo

    1) Golovkin 2 –
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    2) Jacobs
    3) Lara –
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    4) Cotto
    5) Trout –
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    Let’s not scream “robbery!" Let's also acknowledge that if Canelo had 2-3 losses, we'd fight his corner more. However - the bottom line - three of these are draw material. That means, on three occasions, our P4P #1 did not prove superior. He's sorely missing that dominant rematch ala Floyd-Castillo.

    There's another problem. The opposition isn't as good.
     
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  4. BCS8

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    I bet Canelo pays him 1c per word typed in his defence :icon_writing:
     
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  5. shadow111

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    0:54 Jacobs "We made history 2 years ago when we changed the ruling of the IBF in how they, uh, take care of fighters with the 2nd day weigh-in in unification bout".

    You heard it from Jacobs own mouth. He made it very clear in that interview that he and his team "made history" by changing the ruling of the IBF, to, as he says, take care of fighters, fighters like himself, who couldn't make or chose not to participate in the 2nd day weigh-in.
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    OK, so you put Disputed in big bad red letters for Canelo, but you claim several matches of the other legends are Majority agree. Anotherwords Disputed as well. You deciding what fights to claim are disputed and what colors to highlight them in is purely subjective on your part.

    For example, Marquez vs Pacquiao fights 1, 2, and 3 each were Disputed.
     
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  7. BCS8

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    That's just a consequence of his shennanigans with the Golovkin fight. He never petitioned the IBF to change the rule. The IBF changed it itself as a consequence of that fight on its own.
     
  8. IsaL

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    Only haters say Golovkin 2 and Lara are disputed

    Fact: Many of Lara's stablemates said that Canelo WON.
    Fact: Many boxers, trainers, and boxing legends say Canelo beat Golovkin.

    And the fact that you have to say "Very close" for the Trout fight but give Barrera the first fight with Morales, and give Morales the 2nd fight with Barrera shows your calculated agenda.
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jacobs statement contradicts what you're saying. Jacobs is very clear in saying that "We made history 2 years ago when we changed the ruling of the IBF in how they, uh, take care of fighters with the 2nd day weigh-in in unification bout".

    He didn't say the IBF changed the ruling on their own, he said we, as in he and his team, changed the ruling of the IBF. I don't know how else you can interpret that other than Jacobs and his team clearly got the IBF to convince them to change the rule.
     
  10. BCS8

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    It's only you that interprets this like that.
     
  11. shadow111

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    Are you kidding me? Jacobs explicitly saying "we changed the ruling of the IBF" isn't enough for you. Somehow this is me mis-interpreting what Jacobs is saying lol.

    According to you, Jacobs saying "we" changed the ruling on the IBF doesn't really mean that he and his team changed the rule. OK.
     
  12. IsaL

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    So you engage in a debate, and when you start getting your ass kicked, instead of attacking the rebuttals, you attack the poster. Nice.
     
  13. shadow111

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    LOL BCS8 is now claiming that I'm misinterpreting Jacobs saying "we" changed the ruling of the IBF as not him admitting that he got the IBF to change the rule lmao.
     
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  14. BCS8

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    He's referring to him and Golovkin, obviously. As a result of the incident.
     
  15. C.J.

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    EVERYBODY that tells it how it is gets labeled a HATER !! ROFLMAO
    by the El Pollo brigade who think the Ginger Headed fraud walks on water.
    When in truth he's STILL afraid to give GGG a fair fight without his posse, the NSAC & Vegas boxing officials, backing him to make sure he doesnt lose REGARDLESS!!! What a Ginger Wimp he is
     
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