Does anyone put Canelo over Barrera, Morales & Marquez...?

Pure unadulterated Bull feces. The only Mexican fans Pollo has are those little teenage girls that worship Justin Beiber

 

@C.J. We need your help here. How do you interpret this statement by Jacobs in this interview when talking about the IBF rule change that allows him to bypass the normal IBF same day weigh-in / rehydration limit and still compete for the IBF title in a unification.

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At 0:54 seconds in the video, Jacobs says "We made history 2 years ago when we changed the ruling of the IBF in how they, uh, take care of fighters with the 2nd day weigh-in in unification bout".

How do you interpret what Jacobs saying there? Who do you think he means by we and what do you make of what he is saying. And what are your thoughts on the IBF rule being changed and no longer required for unifications as a result of Jacobs skipping it vs GGG?

What do you think led to the IBF making that change, in this interview it sure sound like Jacobs was instrumental in getting the IBF to change the rule, which gives him a big advantage in future Unification matches.

 

Boxing is not a popularity contest. You don't win fights just because you're more likeable. I don't pay attention to Fanboy polls. I pay attention to real boxing people like boxers, trainers, boxing legends.

Several of Lara's buddies admitted immediately after the fight that he lost the fight. Now that doesn't necessarily make their opinions true, but a "reasonable" person would hear that and understand that the fight was close, and if Lara's own freiends had him losing, and the judges had him losing, then by God, anyone else who had him losing is probably right in his opinion. Besides, its not even an opinion, its a FACT that Lara lost.

Same with Golovkin. Golovkin's OWN TRAINER said immediately after the fight that Canelo deserved the win. Many boxers said Canelo won the fight. Several boxing legends like George Foreman, Mike Tyson, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Julio Cesar Chavez and many more said Canelo won the fight.

I'll listen to those guys over fanboys on internet polls any day of the week.

 

If you think you’ve just made any sort of point with that response, you aren’t as sharp as Ted Spoon thinks he is.

 

Two of Mayweather's wins were Disputed. Castillo 1 and Maidana 1.

There's a long list of Ali's wins that were Disputed.

Both of Michael Spinks wins over Larry Holmes were Disputed.

 

Like I told C.J., I don't pay attention to online polls. I pay attention to professional boxers and trainers.

 

@shadow111 Your previous reply was so long I have to respond this way. Alvarez said naturally I wanted the fight at 154 but I gave a little bit and so did he to make the fight. The weight negotiations started at 147 and ended up at a mutually agreed 152. You could easily find Alvarez’s statements around this time. They are all over the internet. Alvarez said making the weight was no problem and actually was an advantage. Mayweather haters don’t want to give him credit for anything. That version of Mayweather beats any version of Alvarez at any weight.

 

You've just proven my point. Thank you. Alvarez wanted the fight at 154. Mayweather wanted it at 147. Yet Mayweather claimed that it was Canelo who didn't want the fight at 154, but rather wanted it at a catchweight.

Here's precisely what Alvarez said about it :

"I'll tell you the truth of what happened," Alvarez said in Spanish through translator Eric Gomez. "Why would I give up the weight? I'm at 154. I'm the 154-pound champion.

"I wouldn't do that. But when the (fight) negotiations started, they wanted me to go to 147. I said that's physically impossible. I couldn't do it. Then they inched up to 150. I said I can't do it, that's impossible. Those days are over. I can't make that weight anymore, I've grown."

So right there tells you which side was pushing for a catchweight : Mayweather's side. They started by trying to get Alvarez to come down to 147, then when he said no, Mayweather inched up to 150. Alvarez said he couldn't.

"Then they went up to 151. And then finally, so we could make the fight, I said, 'If anything, I'll give up two pounds. I'll go up to 152. I agreed to that."

Hmmmm, sounds like someone is trying to drain someone down to a catchweight, to the lowest possible weight they would agree to, don't it. But according to Mayweather, the catchweight was all Canelo's idea, so as you can see that was a lie.

"Then they tried to force me to be quiet and not to mention anything that they came up with the weight of 152. And that's why ... I haven't said anything until now."

"They said we were idiots, we were stupid, that we were the ones that wanted the catchweight."

So Team Mayweather tried to "silence" Canelo and his team from mentioning anything about this tactic to try to get Canelo to agree to come down in weight and agree to catchweights, so Mayweather could lie to the public and act he wasn't the one trying to get Canelo to agree to a catchweight, but rather the catchweight was all Canelo's idea.

Alvarez is saying the complete opposite of what you're saying. Alvarez is saying he couldn't make the weights that Floyd was trying to get him to agree to, but to make the fight he reluctantly agreed to 152 because that's the only way Mayweather would fight him.

How do you interpret that as Alvarez saying that making the catchweights Mayweather was demanding was no problem. He repeatedly told Mayweather's team he couldn't make 147, he couldn't make 150 or 151. Mayweather kept insisting on catchweights. Mayweather, not Canelo. Comprende?

 

Alvarez said he couldn’t make 147 not 152. lol Of course Alvarez wanted the fight at 154 but he also said making 152 was no problem. He made more statements on the fight than the ones you posted. Alvarez weighed 153 in the previous fight and 152 is a problem? Lmao! The bottom line is that Mayweather gave Alvarez a boxing lesson and weight was not an issue.

 

Making 150 was impossible but making 152 was no problem. Cool story bro. Why was Mayweather so afraid of fighting Canelo at 154? Remember this is the same guy who the previous year criticized Pacquiao for draining Cotto to 145 and said because it wasn't at 147, he still considered Cotto undefeated because catchweights are whack. Floyd went on this whole speech about how he doesn't do catchweights and why Pac was so wrong for doing one with Cotto and draining Cotto lmao.

Your conclusion is that nothing about these cowardly tactics by Mayweather to try to drain Canelo down to the lowest weight possible had any effect on the outcome, and Mayweather "silencing" Canelo and his team about who wanted the catchweight, and then lying to the public claiming that the catchweight was Canelo's idea is all fine and dandy to you, that it wouldn't have mattered anyway as according to you Mayweather would have given Alvarez a boxing lesson regardless of the weight, that the weight "was not an issue". All this after Floyd who had just won the Title at 154 over Cotto the previous year and insisted that he doesn't do catchweights like Pac did.

Everyone had such a big issue with Cotto defending the MW Title at 159 or 157 or 155. When there was talk of Canelo fighting GGG at 155, there was outrage. How could such a thing happen, GGG had been fighting at 160 for years, how dare Canelo's promoter talk about fighting GGG at a catchweight of 155. But it's perfectly OK with you for Mayweather, a reigning 154-lb champ, who just won the title at Cotto at 154, to try to get Canelo, a reigning 154-lb Champ, to fight him at 147, then 150, then 151, then 152 in a 154-lb unification match.

 

lol My own theory is that Mayweather wanted to show Alvarez who was in charge and made the catch weight a condition of the fight. Alvarez was acting like he was the man when negotiations first started and Mayweather wanted to put him in his place. I think I remember a post from you saying that you thought Alvarez won that fight or that it was close. Sorry bro, you have no credibility on this subject.

 

And Canelo has the best resume of any prime boxer today. His comp at 54 and 60 was steep and Kovalev + Smith weren’t slouches either.

His defense, chin, counterpunching, body work, and ability to execute a gameplan are outstanding.

 

Alvarez was acting like he was the man when negotiations first started? Where do you come up with this stuff? Why are you trying to make up **** to excuse what Mayweather did? Mayweather clearly pushed and pushed for a catchweight because he was too scared to fight Canelo straight up at 154, like he did with Cotto, then "silenced" Canelo and his team from revealing who was behind the catchweight so he could lie to the public about it and make it seem like it was Canelo's idea. You're perfectly OK with all this because, as you claim, Canelo was acting like "he was the man" when negotiations started? I mean, wow, you are so far up Mayweather's ass you're gonna need to call a tow truck to get out of there. Is Mayweather paying you to defend him so hard, goodness me I don't think I've ever encountered a bigger Mayweather nutrider in my life.

Your "theory" is that Mayweather wanted to show Alvarez who was in "charge" so he made the catchweight a condition. Oh, so it was Mayweather after all who made the catchweight a condition. Glad we established this, because for years the masses have been under the impression that Mayweather or his team had nothing to do with the catchweight and the catchweight was all Canelo's idea.

We're finally getting somewhere here now. Now we know the real story, it was Mayweather desperately and cowardly repeatedly pushing for a catchweight because he was too chicken to fight Canelo straight up at 154. He must have been really scared of losing to Canelo to need such a big advantage, by trying to hard to make Canelo weak and drained in order to fight him. But according to you it was such a schooling the weight wouldn't have mattered anyway even though all 3 judges had it close lol.