Does anyone put Canelo over Barrera, Morales & Marquez...?

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  1. BCS8

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    Yes you are amazing. Explain gravity again?
     
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  2. shadow111

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    You seem really interested in talking about outer space, have you ever thought about becoming an astronaut? Maybe you should consider living in outer space. Maybe build yourself a rocket, blast off into outer space and spend the rest of your life floating around in zero gravity trying to discover new planets or new worlds. Maybe one day you'll discover a new planet with aliens that think more like you that you can relate to more, as you seem to be having tons of problems with humanity and relating to humans on earth. BCS8, maybe you're really an alien and you're living on the wrong planet. Good luck finding your way home E.T.
     
  3. Ted Spoon

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    And this is what many don't understand. Greatness is more a quality than a quantity.

    Most can appreciate that Joe Louis was great, but 25 defences doesn't explain why. It's more to do with the fact he destroyed in rematches. That he punched holes in a brute like Max Baer. That he finally pinned down a stylistic pest in 'Jersey' Joe Walcott. Simply, he didn't leave any doubt.

    Now had Canelo clearly won Golovkin 2, and stopped Lara in a rematch, then these claims of greatness would hold more weight, alas, regardless of his current celebrity, he doesn't get a pass.
     
  4. iii

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    Rubbish, he was the brains in his little clan ,iSAL being next down the other a eye in a bucket got banned. He's a reknown asswipe of the highest order!!
     
  5. shadow111

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  6. iii

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    My God he is obsessed ...
     
  7. shadow111

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    Note the facial damage of GGG in that photograph, that eye all puffed up and bleeding, evidence of the beatdown that you can't deny.
     
  8. iii

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    " You didn't put me down Ray".....muppet
     
  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    What I want from you is PROOF someone accused Tony of having "GYPSUM" on the pad in his wrap against Mosely. Look very closely because that was NOT what any test on the pad proved at all. Ive got the test results that the independant lab issued & no mention of gypsum on there. The wording was " After microscopic testing of the pad Trace Elements, thats a very minute amount to a dumbo like you, of calcium & sulphur were found." Both are , in far larger quantities, ingredients of Plaster BUT the amount discovered was equivilent to what is found in HUMAN SWEAT & in Handcreme among other things & the pads were deemed HARMLESS by the lab. The CSAC failed to add the last part of the test though in their report. Like they never quizzed Nazim Richardson about what happened to the PLASTER BLOCKS he claimed fell from the wraps. No one else saw them yet everyone in there handled those pads.
    Even Mosely said " They look ok to me"
    Now dont respond with a mini war & peace size BS post just let it rest
    Tony was suspended because he was SUSPECTED to have tried to load his gloves against Mosely therefore they ASSUMED he'd had loaded gloves against Cotto ROFLMAO
    Canelo was popped dirty for illegal Clenbuterol . The NSAC suspended him for 6 months for it . Making him at the time A PROVEN PED"S CHEAT!!
    Anyway how , it you claim it was tainted Mexican beef that caused him to fail, how is it EVERY mexican fighter hadnt popped dirty for it. Or dont the other fighters eat beef???? ROFL Wise up Dumbo youre fighting a lost cause
     
  10. C.J.

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    Hey I just had a thought Shadow isnt another Alt for Herol is he ??? I wonder lol
     
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  11. shadow111

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    Why did the CSAC inspector force Tony to re-wrap vs Mosley? If there was nothing wrong with his hand-wraps, then the California inspector would have said "Sorry, Nazim, they are OK, no need to re-wrap". But the California official sided with Nazim and forced Tony to re-wrap, so apparently there was something wrong with his wraps vs Mosley. It seems to me that's what started the whole scandal. And once Cotto got wind of what happened there vs Mosley, then he became convinced that Tony wraps must have been illegal vs him. Was it THEN(?) AFTER Tony fought Mosley that the NSAC decided to inspect Tony's wraps vs Cotto that had been sitting around for months or did they inspect them right after Tony fought Cotto? This is very important CJ that we understand the timeline here and when Tony's Cotto wraps were inspected. CJ, you followed this whole story a lot closer than I did, so you tell me what happened. You're the expert here.

    Were Tony's wraps vs Cotto inspected by the NSAC BEFORE or AFTER Tony fought Mosley in California? If there weren't any objections to Tony's wraps from Cotto's team before or after that match, then I don't see how what happened vs Mosley proves that his wraps were illegal vs Cotto. It seems to me, and correct me if I'm wrong about this, that it wasn't until Tony vs Mosley that this became a scandal when Tony was forced to re-wrap prior to fighting Mosley. And if in fact Tony's wraps were illegal against Mosley in California, at least before he had to re-wrap, that doesn't make them necessarily illegal in Nevada where he fought Cotto, as California apparently has much stricter rules about handwraps than Nevada does. And further, if he was forced to re-wrap vs Mosley, then once he did re-wrap, his re-wraped handwraps vs Mosley were then deemed legal by California, and I don't see how Tony having to re-wrap vs Mosley proves that his wraps were illegal vs Cotto, in a different state with different rules regarding hand wraps.
     
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  12. C.J.

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    Jeez youre like an old woman !!!!
    That same CSAC insp Watched Javier Wrap Tony's hands passed them & signed off on them. It was only the that Richardson said the wraps werent done right, a thing he was notorious for doing, & demanded they be re wrapped. When they remove the wrap was when Richardson made the ludicrous "plaster blocks fell out" claim. No one else saw any "plaster blocks " Everyone in the room looked at & handled the pads before they were confiscated .Tony was suspended on Richardson's word by an inept or crooked commission. The CSAC's own insp passed & signed off on the wraps he'd seen nothing wrong
    As for the Cotto fight i was right behind the NSAC's insp as he watched them wrapped There was NOTHING illegal in them Cotto's unclewatched them wrapped too & never saw anything amiss
    Its over & done with ,a good fighters name & career were tarnished by a blatant lie & an inept or crooked commission,you choose, I know what I believe. Neither Oscar nor Floyd had to fight the man BOTH were scared of It was one of boxings biggest tragedies an innocent man railroaded
    Now back to the "GYPSUM" accusation C'mon you accused him Hack it up or apologize
     
  13. shadow111

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    When did the NSAC inspect Tony's Cotto wraps? Right after the Cotto fight or not until AFTER Tony fought Mosley in California?
     
  14. C.J.

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    The NSAC insp watched them wrapped before the Cotto fight as did Cotto's uncle & ME!!! LOL No one complained at all
     
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  15. shadow111

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    I'm not talking about the normal pre-fight handwrapping inspection. I know that Tony's wraps were deemed legal by the NSAC on the night he fought Cotto before the fight. I'm asking WHEN were Tony's Cotto post-fight wraps FIRST inspected and deemed to be illegal by the NSAC?

    This is important. If the NSAC DID NOT find anything wrong with Tony's Cotto's wraps on the night or immediately AFTER the fight and it was not UNTIL AFTER Tony fought Mosley months later that the NSAC decided to re-inspect his wraps that were sitting around, then that's another story as I'd imagine any wraps sitting around for months would be hard as a rock.

    When Exactly did the NSAC deem his Cotto wraps illegal? When did the NSAC suspend Tony? Was it not until AFTER he fought Mosley in California, that the NSAC felt a need to take another look at his wraps that were sitting around for months? Or did the NSAC inspect Tony's Cotto's wraps right after he fought Cotto and concluded that they were illegal? I'm trying to understand what PROMPTED the NSAC to take another look at Tony's Cotto's wraps and test them thoroughly for sweat, gypsum, plaster of paris, etc. Were there any accusations in the days and weeks following the first Cotto fight? Was it not until after the Mosley fight that Tony was first accused of cheating? To which the NSAC THEN decided to further inspect his wraps?